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August 29, 2025 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #2443116yankel berelParticipant
While I am not a zionist [like damoshe is] and I do disapprove of zionism ,
nevertheless it is clear that he can be a zionist and still not reject the torah
like steipler clearly writes in karyaneh de’igrata vol 1
.August 29, 2025 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #2443117yankel berelParticipantkatan :
The oaths do not apply during Temple times. That’s why.
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why do they not apply during temple times ?=====
The oaths do not apply during Temple times. That’s why.—
and if the jews will rebuild the temple nowadays , according to your reasoning , will the oaths stop applying ?
.August 29, 2025 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #2443118yankel berelParticipantkatan :
The Khazar state is not a question on anything. The State existed when they were gentiles, and some of their ruling class then converted to Judaism. And their reign did not last all that long …
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does katan realize he did not address the question at all ?katan claims the MERE EXISTENCE of a state before mashiach is kfira and yehareig ve’al yaavor ….
khazar state existed over many generations ,
so why did r yehuda halevy , when teaching the khazar king all about our belief , not at all mention this supposed hugely important ikar of judaism ?
katan seems happy to leave this [and many other] question[s] unanswered ….
and still expects us to accept his farfetched and unsubstantiated theories on the grounds of his say so ….
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.August 29, 2025 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm #2443165Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantkatan > Oaths are brought down as halacha throughout the millenia, including by the Rambam himself
First, out of respect to your opinion, I am suggesting you doing hatarat nedorim. Let’s think of Rambam being here. We already discussed that he might first go to MIT to learn astronomy before applying to Lakewood. But he would surely look at the political situation right now and develop his opinions accordingly.
We also saw in multiple threads, that modern halocha often rejects idealistic Rambam’s positions, like a need to work and not take charity from Jews and non-Jews – because people in our days are not capable of following this. So, when Rambam sees medinat Yisrael supporting so many yeshiva students – do you think he will tell those students to quit, or will he support the medinah? How is that for a dimemma?
August 29, 2025 2:23 pm at 2:23 pm #2443232DaMosheParticipantSmall One, what about my response to you – do you have nothing to say? I’ll copy/paste it again:
He claimed “It is Zionism that bothers the gentiles, not Judaism.”
Maybe he just chooses to ignore the fact that it says “Halacha B’yaduh Sh’Eysav Sone L’Yaakov” -
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