June 9, 2017 12:09 am at 12:09 am #1292340
Use whatever terminology floats your boat. The bottom line is that the point here based on the discussion of the president’s action is that he has the legal right under US law to order the FBI to open or close investigations. And even to order US Attorneys to prosecute or not prosecute.June 9, 2017 12:28 am at 12:28 am #1292352Defend ChabadParticipant
mw13, you believe that the president closing an FBI investigation is an impeachable offense? That is epic…….June 9, 2017 11:17 am at 11:17 am #1292452yehudayonaParticipant
Interestingly, “high crimes and misdemeanors” is a lower standard than that required for criminal prosecution. It’s basically whatever Congress decides it is. The HC&M that Andrew Johnson and William Jefferson Clinton were impeached for were less heinous than some acts committed by other presidents. I wonder how many CR participants can even state what Johnson was impeached for without looking it up.June 9, 2017 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm #1292473
“High crimes and misdemeanors” has no standard altogether or legal definition. It only has a political definition. It is whatever the sitting members of Congress decide or want or vote it to be. Or not to be.March 12, 2018 11:23 pm at 11:23 pm #1487819
From page one: “The problem with the DemonCrats is that they’re sore losers!”
They won’t admit that they are on a Witch Hunt! The Congressional Intel Committee said NO Collusion!
But do you think that this will go away anytime soon?!?March 13, 2018 12:04 am at 12:04 am #1487840👑RebYidd23Participant
At least THEY don’t Capitalize random Words!March 13, 2018 12:31 am at 12:31 am #1487856
Yidd23 -“At least THEY don’t Capitalize random Words!”
And what’s WRONG with that? Is it against the Torah?
How about Not getting married is that against the Torah?!?March 13, 2018 2:01 am at 2:01 am #1487861👑RebYidd23Participant
Is witch hunting against the Torah? Witchcraft is definitely assur.March 16, 2018 6:06 pm at 6:06 pm #1492042
First of all, the House Intelligence committee is run by Repugs.
Second of all, there are new bombshells coming weekly.
And third of all, if they didn’t interview 100+ witnesses that they were supposed to, how can you say it’s a fair investigation?!March 18, 2018 2:30 am at 2:30 am #1492269
cs -“And third of all, if they didn’t interview 100+ witnesses that they were supposed to, how can you say it’s a fair investigation?!”
Your obsession that Trump broke the law, is eating away at you!
The Congressional Intel Committee said NO Collusion and they were able to obtain that info with the witnesses that they did interview!March 18, 2018 8:28 pm at 8:28 pm #1493653
Health, do you realize how little sense you make?March 18, 2018 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #1493663Midwest2Participant
I’m going to break with the minhag on this thread by not replying to anyone in particular with indignation, scorn or other negative emotions. So here goes:
1) I really miss Eisenhower and the old Republican party. I’m surprised he doesn’t come back and haunt the schlemiels who call themselves Republicans today.
2. Trump is doing some things which are drastically unpopular with his own party, like threatening a trade war. The Republican party has always been the party of business, and businesses hate to lose money. Industry groups are already pleading with him to hold off tariffs. If he does start a trade war it won’t just be that the political knives will come out – it will be more like kalashnikovs and grenade launchers.
3. Midterms are coming up, and the tweetstorms and odd pronouncements are making Republican candidates fearful of losing their seats. Politicians like to stay in office.
4. His foreign policy changes from day to day. It may not matter that this bothers the leaders of other nations, but it does bother the people in Congress who are trying to conduct foreign policy on a day-to-day basis.
At this point it doesn’t really matter what the Democrats think of Trump – his own party is becoming extremely unhappy with him. I would guess that if he springs any more surprises – like firing Mueller – they really will vote to impeach him, and given the balance in the Senate, he could very well be convicted.
I’m not happy with the prospect of Trump being impeached. It’s messy and internationally embarrassing. Unfortunately, he doesn’t seem to learn from experience. And given his age, weight and lack of exercise, and that he’s on statins, I wonder if there aren’t also medical issues. Those are risk factors for strokes, which can impair impulse control and judgment. I would have been happier if his medical exam had included some brain imaging.
We’ve got trouble, as the old song goes, right here in Washington, and whatever the outcome is, we’re going to suffer for it in international credibility. (And also in our ability to defend Israel against its political enemies.)March 18, 2018 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm #1493680
I agree with Midwest2. Had I been living in the 1950s, I would probably be mixed between the two parties.
As Eisenhower once said, “Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment, insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Their number is negligible, and they are stupid.”
Seeing what’s going on in Washington these days, it seems his prediction is coming true.March 18, 2018 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm #1493682
Midwest2 -“like firing Mueller – they really will vote to impeach him, and given the balance in the Senate, he could very well be convicted.”
He can’t fire Mueller – only Rodstein can!March 18, 2018 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm #1493683147Participant
Every morning I arise & chant praises to the Almighty who in His Infinite Kindness & Wisdom, spared us from the calamity of having this heinous Hillary in the Oval Office. I continue to Admire President Trump, and shall once again vote for him both at the Primaries & election 2020, as I am so glad I did during 2016.
In the same light, I strongly believe that the Israeli police should back off, and leave PM Netanyohu alone, so he can continue his wonderful work as Prime Minister.March 18, 2018 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm #1493697Reb EliezerParticipant
Health, what happens if Trump gets Sessions to fire Rod Rosenstein?March 19, 2018 12:17 am at 12:17 am #1493696
147 -“heinous Hillary in the Oval Office. I continue to Admire President Trump, and shall once again vote for him both at the Primaries & election 2020, as I am so glad I did”
The democrats are so obssesed that Trump won – that they will try anything to get him impeached!
When the last administration told Comey to back down against Hillary, no one said Boo. Now they are going to use Comey to get or try to get Trump impeached.March 19, 2018 12:17 am at 12:17 am #1493709
Midwest2: If there’s a serious prospect of impeachment and conviction, the President will suddenly drop bombs and initiate war against North Korea. Congress will then have to decide whether to remove the Commander in Chief in middle of America’s deadliest war since World War II.March 19, 2018 1:27 pm at 1:27 pm #1493993Midwest2Participant
One thing that a lot of people are overlooking: the next-in-line for President is Pence. Pence is a perfectly normal, sane competent-type politician. I don’t agree with most of his politics, but I couldn’t make a case that he’s incompetent or irresponsible. In fact, I think that’s why he was chosen as vice-president. For conservatives he makes an excellent alternative to the current lack of focus, and I think that if Trump were to do anything really bizarre, he would be removed from office whatever the circumstances and Pence would take over.
Keep an eye on the midterms. If it really looks like it’s going to be a disaster for the Republicans, something might happen to push Trump out – openly or quietly. Politicians like to remain in office (and continue getting donations from lobbyists) so if it looks like Trump is seriously endangering the status quo he could be in trouble. All those Republican career politicians he despises have plenty more practice at playing the game than he does.May 10, 2018 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm #1519253
Havent heard from our liberal friends in a while! Are we still aiming for impeachment??May 11, 2018 7:48 am at 7:48 am #1519293☕️coffee addictParticipant
Sadly they are
They are like little kids when they don’t win they cry all day and say “you cheated”May 11, 2018 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm #1519361flatbushaskanParticipant
Can someone list what Trump has done that is eligible to get him impeached?
At the federal level, Article Two of the United States Constitution states in Section 4 that “The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors.May 11, 2018 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm #1519350
Whats the Oilams opinion for Mike Pence 2024?May 11, 2018 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm #1519375DaMosheParticipant
whitecar, I’d prefer Nikki Haley.May 11, 2018 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm #1519380May 11, 2018 5:14 pm at 5:14 pm #1519447
The reason he has such strong support though is cause of the blind hatredMay 11, 2018 5:14 pm at 5:14 pm #1519454
Definitely Pence ’24. Haley can be his secretary.September 27, 2019 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm #1790201Reb EliezerParticipant
Impeachment happens when we elect a president without experience who communicates with foreign leaders like a busijess transaction.September 27, 2019 1:17 pm at 1:17 pm #1790204akupermaParticipant
1. President Pence would be good. He could appeal to the traditional Republicans as well as the “basket of deplorables” who put Trump in office.
2. To remove Trump from office would require much Republican support, which would alienate the Trump-base and result in Warren or Sanders getting elected. To win a national election the traditional Republicans (“Country club” or “Wall Street” or “Chamber of Commerce” flavor) need the populist base. Anything that alienated the “deplorables” costs the Republicans.September 27, 2019 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm #1790206hershhParticipant
Hope that not only does he survive but that he also gets reelected for a second term. He is not a failure but rather a fighter for what he believes in. Fighters always have resistance since it ruffles many feathers. For the good of America and the good of Am Yisroel while we’re in golus let’s daven for his success. What those libs really have in mind is tumah and filth.
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