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i am thinking about starting to smoke does anyone have any thoughts on this ?
Marijuana?
Don’t put your life in danger and C”V put a curse of cancer upon yourself caused by you. Prevent it and save your precious life and prevent yourself from doing many so sins that occur every time someone smokes including
1)venishmartem meod…
2)going in the chukas hagoyim and 3)lifnei iver… Every time a young person sees you smoking and gets the cravings to start smoking C”V caused by you and many other aveiros every time any person smokes or drinks or gambles etc..,
Let’s see how many people are going to post about the op’s topic
I like talking about bunny rabbits
I can tell you’re not a troll because you are ignorant of the inevitable response.
non of yo beez wax – thank you for copying my thread (being sarcastic). please stop trolling.
Make sure you buy a quality smoker. Smoked meat done right is delicious.
So is smoked salmon.
Sometimes I add a smokey flavor to my chicken.
The best way to quit smoking is never to start.
Stop, Drop, and Role
I am curious as to how much damage second hand smoke causes to others in an outdoor environment. This would seemingly be the only basis for the brainwashed kneejerk and bigoted mentality of the masses. Yeah, from the public heath conspiracy. Unlike vaccines, which are backed up by facts, the anti-smoking campaign is blatantly and admittedly emotional. Yes it harms. Yes it causes cancer. Yes, lying or misrepresenting that smoking is more evil than Hitler will likely save lives. But what about truth? Does that have no merit?
People smoke because they want to. 90+ percent of the time, they are only harming themselves, and not as much as the NIH and CDC would like you to believe. Just look at their massive advertising campaigns against smoking. “smoking-related-diseases” is code word for “I’m going to make smoking sound 50 times more unhealthy than it actually is.
Dont get me wrong. Smoking is bad. Heavy smoking causes cancer in nearly 1/10 smokers. It may exacerbate heart disease. It often causes breathing discomfort. But get off your high horses people. It is not Hitler.
It stinks. Why should people be allowed to put their stinky tobacco smoke on me? If I wanted to smell bad, I’d roll around in a cat’s litterbox.
It’s a bad habit to start many got into it because of peer pressure or to relax. You must find out what the underlining factors drawing you into this habit before you are totally addicted so that you can stop.
It will take ten years off of your life. No joke. If that’s not a reason not to start, I don’t know what is.
Apparently according to the rabbis its okay for me to start smoking (being sarcastic since people on here are insisting that its okay). so ill go get out my first cigarette.
It will take ten years off of your life. Does that mean that you will look ten years younger?
If you are saying that a smoker dies 10 years before his time? How do you know when his time is up? Only G-d Knows. If you can predict the future can you tell me what next weeks winning Lotto number are.
Reb Yid If you don’t want tobacco smoke on you just don’t hang around people who smoke.
Sparkly Why do you want to smoke? Just because it isn’t prohibited doesn’t mean that it’s something GOOD for you to do. Speeding isn’t prohibited by Jewish law, but is dangerous and should not be done.
Abba_S – i dont want to smoke i dont want to commit suicide its the same thing. speeding is VERY different than smoking i speed all the time but would NEVER smoke. it was scientifically proven that people die earlier if they smoke. they compared MANY people.
Just by walking down the street, you can get covered in smoke.
Reb Yid You have to know where the smokers hang out and avoid those places. I assume you have eyes that can see and a nose that can smell you have to avoid their hang outs. The wind cleans away the odor in seconds. You are not covered in the smoke, it’s just the odor that attaches to your clothing and you have a sensitivity to it.
Sparkly Both Speeding & Smoking MAY kill but while smoking will take years until he gets sick, speeding will kill you in a second. I never smoke and likewise never speed. Is the few seconds or minutes that you save worth your life or years of rehabilitation to get back to normal.
As to the studies that compare many people, just like you say those people that got into speeding accidents they were bad drivers but I am a good driver. You should know that if you are going 60 miles per hour which is not speeding you are going a mile a minute and you would not be able to stop in time to avoid an accident. Similarly, the smoker will claim these people have a weak immune system but they have a strong immune system. This is why some people will die of lung cancer in their 50s who have never smoked while other die in their 90s and smoked most of their life.
I think sparkly should start smoking.
Let’s get a petition going
Abba_S- Why do you want to smoke? Just because it isn’t prohibited doesn’t mean that it’s something GOOD for you to do. Speeding isn’t prohibited by Jewish law, but is dangerous and should not be done.
Actually, speeding is Prohibited by Jewish law, it’s a Gemara in Bava Kama
“It will take ten years off of your life. Does that mean that you will look ten years younger?
If you are saying that a smoker dies 10 years before his time? How do you know when his time is up? Only G-d Knows. If you can predict the future can you tell me what next weeks winning Lotto number are.”
What a ridiculous argument. According to that logic, why don’t we all engage in other dangerous behaviors. Why don’t we run across the street without looking, because “only God knows when your time is up!”
Obviously a smoker doesn’t literally lose exactly ten years. That’s an average. Calculated from scientific studies of life expectancy of smokers and non-smokers, controlling for other variables.
Yeshivishe Kup – Where in Bava Kama does it say that Speeding in a motor vehicle is prohibited if the car wasn’t invented until the late 1800s almost a thousand years later? In Kiddushin page 82a the second Mishna states the Best of the Doctor go to HELL.
Jewishfeminist02 By your own admission the claim o that a smoker loses ten years is false and under Jewish Law testimony that is partially proven false is totally false and they are no longer believed.
There is a big difference between running across the street without looking because there the danger occurs at the same time as oppose to smoking where the disease occurs 20-30 years later.
Sparkly You may not believe this but if you are speeding you are driving blindly as you are traveling over 60 MPH or a mile a minute which is faster than you can see. By the time you see something it is already to late to take evasive action. Unlike smoking which is an addiction speeding is just a bad choice which can kill yourself and others quickly.
Abba_S – yes dont go to places where theirs goyim then no need to worry about people smoking. when i speed its like 70 because the speed limit is 55 and according to my dad whos a lawyer where i live you can go up to 65 and cant get caught. so 60 is nothing. even 70 is only slightly above but then when im going fast is when i get to 80. also dont forget the place that i live everything is far from one another. so it takes me about at least 25 minutes to get to school and when theres traffic up to an hour so “slow” is when were driving at 60 in the fast lane behind a huge car of lanes and i dont drive fast for fun i drive fast to get to places faster.
popa_bar_abba – no thank you. ill stay frum.
yeshivishe kup – please bring up where speeding is against the torah. also when i speed im usually going the same speed as everyone else. im just following the other cars.
jewishfeminist02 – thats what i tried saying earlier.
Sparky is CT lawyer’s daughter.
“Jewishfeminist02 By your own admission the claim o that a smoker loses ten years is false and under Jewish Law testimony that is partially proven false is totally false and they are no longer believed.”
Um, no, it’s not false. It’s not a literal statement and was never intended as such. You are being ridiculous.
Popa,
I think you may be on to something
PBA -“Sparky is CT lawyer’s daughter.”
Ya’ know, I was thinking the same thing!
Sparky – How’s Mom doing?
That is the last post of that nature that will be let through (by me). Health, when someone’s life is in the balance for a period of time, even if they are presently on the road to recovery it has no place in teasing, which in and of itself is not very tasteful.
29 – You sure don’t know what I meant! I was serious.
Just cause you NYers don’t talk like that – I do.
And when she said she lives OOT, I talked like that because I’m originally from OOT!
Talk about Dan L’caf Zecus during the 9 days.
Sparkly: I don’t know where you live but it is not as you say “where i live you can go up to 65 and cant get caught”.
In the USA, anyone can be stopped for going even 1 MPH over the speed limit. However, many police officers/state troopers will not stop motorists unless they are travelling at 10 MPH or more over the speed limit. In NYS, the fines and the points increase depending on how many miles over the limit the motorist is travelling. In NYC, the speed cameras allow for 10 MPH over the limit before the photo is taken (at least anyone I know who has received a speed camera ticket was going >10 MPH.)
popa_bar_abba – no im not at all. not even close. why are you saying that?
Health – what mom? i love making fun of that kind of accent. the OOT accent. good for you. your the only other person who thinks its funny.
iacisrmma – are you involved in law?
PBA Sparkly isn’t CTLawyer daughter. His sons in law are lawyers and she wants a doctor. Also I think his youngest duaghter just got married and she is single.
Sparkly If you are driving 70 MPH you are going 103 feet per second. If you have to make a short stop to avoid something you will need very fast reflexes and even then you might not be able to stop in time. During poor visibility your headlights wouldn’t show you anything as the headlight doesn’t extend 100 feet in front of you.
While $ 130 K is the median salary for a pharmacist,which means that half of them make less then this amount. In fact you will probably start out in the 70-90 K but with more and more insurance companies requiring the use of mail ordering drug and with Obama care limiting reimbursement for drugs, I can’t see you making the $130 K any time soon. A $130 K salary when you include fringe benefits it cost the employer $200 K. In order to turn a profit the employer’s gross sales has to be a million a month or higher as gross profit on pharmaceuticals is under 5%. Many of the Mom & Pop Pharmacies are going out of business. Grocery and other stores use them as loss leaders to keep customer in the store in the hope that they buy something expensive.
This is all assuming that you pass the Naplex, there are some schools that have a 68% pass rate while other it’s close to 100%. In Jan 2015 in NY Statewide pass rate for Part 3 was 58%. Fail three times and you can’t get a licence in NY, nationwide it’s 5. No licence no job so checking up the pass rate of the college is most important also even if it’s a state university if it’s not fiscally sound they will close even if you are in the middle of your program.
Yes and I work with and have worked with close to 100 retired NYPD officers.
Health:
Just cause you NYers don’t talk like that – I do.
And when she said she lives OOT, I talked like that because I’m originally from OOT!
Talk about Dan L’caf Zecus during the 9 days.
Sorry to disappoint you but I don’t remember ever saying anything about where I live. I don’t think I have been in NY in more than a decade except to pass through it twice. Maybe we *should* talk about being Dan L’caf Zechus.
Abba_S – i did a LOT of research about this. this is what i found. this is what i heard. the pharmacy school their sending me too is like a harvard for pharmacy schools since harvard doesnt have a pharmacy school. its a VERY good pharmacy school.
29 -“Sorry to disappoint you but I don’t remember ever saying anything about where I live. I don’t think I have been in NY in more than a decade except to pass through it twice. Maybe we *should* talk about being Dan L’caf Zechus.”
You’re wrong again. IDK where you live, but your attitude is like a New Yorker. Where you born there?
What am I “wrong again” about? I just told you I am not from NY and you are telling me I am wrong?
mods – please make a rule that your NOT allowed to say where you live.
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