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  • #1114605

    showjoe
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    it is takeh a good question.

    however he seems to be the first tourist on discworld. ever.

    the first person who ever thought of touring on discworld. therefore he was the first tourist to ever be/step foot on discworld.

    its a shver answer, i know. but thats all i can come up with

    #1114606

    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    I thought of that and it would (albeit dochekly) answer for some of the statements. But there is one statement which says:

    “Discworld’s first visitor from elsewhere” [emphasis added]

    which is pretty explicitly saying that Twoflower is not from Discworld.

    -PAA

    #1114607

    showjoe
    Participant

    listen, i hear you rayia, but l’massea i can tell you that discworld is the whole planet.

    so sometimes, we just conclude “kashia”

    #1114608

    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    It also says:

    “Twoflower was a tourist, the first of the species to evolve on the Disc”

    Which is explicit that Twoflower is in fact from Discwold.

    My answer to the contradiction is that the quote which said “from elsewhere” is not actually in the book; it’s in the summary on the back cover. Perhaps the summary is not canonical.

    -Patur Aval Assur

    #1114609

    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    It is interesting though, that the writer of the summary would make such an elementary mistake.

    #1114610

    gavra_at_work
    Participant

    I’m not sure why you have a Shaillah.

    Pashut he is from the Disc (Counterweight), but he is also the first tourist, as no such thing existed on the Disc before Twoflower.

    On the summary? I don’t have to deal with Meforshim. They make mistakes.

    #1114612

    MRS PLONY
    Participant

    Sure the ‘blurb’ writer could make a dumb mistake. It’s well known that the first edition of The Hobbit had some peculiar cover art because the publisher just chose something strange because they were in a hurry to go to print. I think it had a couple of flamingoes under a weird looking tree.

    Not nogeiah to DiscWorld, but in the same category of fantasy fiction.

    #1114613

    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    Judging by my blocked post, I think the moderators must have overextended their senses of humor with the switching of posters.

    So here is my post minus the “objectionable” part:

    Pashut he is from the Disc (Counterweight), but he is also the first tourist, as no such thing existed on the Disc before Twoflower.

    So perhaps he should have been described as “the first Discworlder to become a tourist.”

    #1114614

    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    Perhaps the summary writer got confused by:

    Inside the ship is Twoflower, the Disc’s first tourist. He had recently spent some months exploring it and is now rapidly leaving it for reasons that are rather complicated but have to do with an attempt to escape from Krull.

    Taken on its own, this sentence can easily lead one to believe that Twoflower is not from the Disc.

    #1114615

    Bookworm120
    Participant

    My condolences, everyone.

    #1114616

    NeutiquamErro
    Participant

    RIP Sir Terry

    #1114617

    Guess what this is:

    Crest

    Upon a Helm with a Wreath Argent and Sable On Water Barry wavy Sable Argent and Sable an Owl affronty wings displayed and inverted Or supporting thereby two closed Books erect Gules.

    Escutcheon

    Sable an ankh between four Roundels in saltire each issuing Argent.

    Motto

    Noli Timere Messorem (Don’t fear the reaper)

    #1114619

    DEATH
    Member

    I WAS SORRY TO SEE HIM GO, BUT EACH

    MUST PASS AT HIS APPOINTED TIME.

    MEMENTO MORI, MEMENTO MORI…

    #1114621

    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    “Terry took Death’s arm and followed him through the doors and on to the black desert under the endless night.”

    #1114622

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    I just realized that OOM had mentioned me in the opening post of this thread. I never looked at this thread until today as I have never read the books… But condolences to all the fans ^_^

    #1114623

    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    How did DEATH, within minutes of creating the username, get a subtitle which was the first of three tweets announcing the death, and then lose it shortly thereafter? My earlier post was the second of the three tweets; I had skipped the first one because it was already in DEATH’s subtitle.

    #1114624

    A wizard did it?

    What are the other two tweets?

    #1114625

    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    The three tweets:

    [In case you don’t know, Death in Discworld is anthropomorphic and speaks in capitals.]

    “AT LAST, SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER.”

    “Terry took Death’s arm and followed him through the doors and on to the black desert under the endless night.”

    “The End.”

    This is how his daughter announced his death.

    #1114626

    NeutiquamErro
    Participant

    His agent announced his death on his twitter account.

    #1114627

    gavra_at_work
    Participant

    I felt that Raising Steam was a last hurrah, as he got everyone involved (and even had a spot for Ridcully and Lu-Tze).

    He will be missed.

    #1114629

    showjoe
    Participant

    RIP

    a man with a job well done

    #1114630

    Patur Aval Assur
    Participant

    So I finished the third book. It was so much better than the first two (not that the first two were bad). Though I still have a kashya on it:

    In the beginning of the book, Drum Billet is walking in the rain. We are told:

    [Y]ou could tell he was a wizard, partly because of the long cloak and carven staff but mainly because the raindrops were stopping several feet from his head and steaming.

    Yet towards the end of the book, Cutangle is walking in the rain and he gets soaked until Granny Weatherwax tells him to move between the drops. Now why couldn’t Cutangle do whatever magic it was that Drum Billet did to stay dry?

    #1114634

    PAA–perhaps he didn’t know the spell?

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