January 31, 2019 8:43 am at 8:43 am #1671377
With all the negativity that has been going around about the 5 towns, I would like to point out how much growth there has been in the amount of Shiurim and Torah that goes on there. Yes not every community is perfect, but we must look at the good in every single Jew and in every single Jewish community. And Chas Vishalom to say something negative about any Jew or community. I’m sorry to anyone that lives in the 5 towns, or anyone that has been hurt by previous threads. For the 5 towns is one of the best Torah and chesed loving communities in the America.January 31, 2019 10:00 am at 10:00 am #1671457☕️coffee addictParticipant
100% trueJanuary 31, 2019 10:00 am at 10:00 am #1671465
You’re just proving the point.January 31, 2019 10:57 am at 10:57 am #1671586GadolhadorahParticipant
To some of those living in Willy, BP or other crowded Brooklyn neighborhoods, 5T may seem OOT but it really has it all from the perspective of a frum couple or family seeking to relocate but stay close to real world, Housing is expensive but not much more so than those “in-town” neighborhoods. I don’t think any our friends or family in 5T really care about what some armchair poskim on an internet thread have to say about their frumkeit or pervasive problems with tzinius on the streets of their neighborhood.January 31, 2019 10:57 am at 10:57 am #1671588
I just can’t understand why people are still commenting Lashon hara about a Jewish community. It doesn’t matter how some people dress. Your supposed to look at the good in every single jew. And it just hurts to see so many people fighting with one another about total nonsense.January 31, 2019 11:02 am at 11:02 am #1671602
It doesn’t matter how some people dress.
That attitude is precisely what those posting negatively can claim is what they’re fighting against.January 31, 2019 11:22 am at 11:22 am #1671617
There’s nothing to fight against! We’re all Jews! There’s only ONE that judeges us and that is Hashem! Of course it matters how you dress, but it is not our place to knock another Jew for that. For we have no right to judge.January 31, 2019 11:23 am at 11:23 am #1671618
And “DaasYochid” I am not Chas vishalom saying anything against you. In fact your most probably right. That is exactly what they are arguing about. But still, as Jews we may not look down upon one another.January 31, 2019 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm #1671637
We do need to judge others’ actions. You, in fact, judged others’ actions (posting) as wrong because you feel it’s lashon hora.
I agree about the looking down, and in many cases, judging motivations and levels of nisayon.
I think what’s bothering you is that you’re getting a feeling that posters just want to knock others to make themselves feel superior, and not l’shem shomayim. You might be correct. Perhaps, though, you might want to constantly if you’re judging correctly…
Either way, wrong is wrong and must be judged as such.January 31, 2019 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm #1671653
You don’t need to bring others down to pick yourself up! Let Hashem judge, not you!January 31, 2019 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm #1671651
Your wrong!!! Ever heard of benefit of the doubt!January 31, 2019 1:32 pm at 1:32 pm #1671680
You’re judging me? Maybe you should give me the benefit of the doubt?January 31, 2019 1:44 pm at 1:44 pm #1671697
Your one of the chutzpanicks that cause all the problems for this website. So to the Bais Medrish and don’t come out until you get some manners!January 31, 2019 1:44 pm at 1:44 pm #1671698
Yeah! You don’t get benefit of the doubt when you are constantly bring down other JewsJanuary 31, 2019 1:47 pm at 1:47 pm #1671705
Um… Okay, I guess…January 31, 2019 2:57 pm at 2:57 pm #1671739Shopping613 🌠Participant
You can’t judge one another for sure, but we definitely need to speak about things that affect other people in the community, whether it’s an issue of bullying in schools or przitus on the street. No I can’t take people aside and force them to do things, but we must think as a community, as a klal what we can do to improve the general atmosphere and makes things easier for people.January 31, 2019 3:01 pm at 3:01 pm #1671756
Justajew, you had me there for a while, nice troll job.
Are you the same troll as the other 5T thread? If I were a betting man…January 31, 2019 4:39 pm at 4:39 pm #1671771
From DaasYochid with a straight face :
“……..nice troll job…..”Are you the same troll as the other 5T thread?”
The Bobbsey Twins and MORE …. Haaaaahh
You can fool some of the people…..etc..etc…
That’s a good one.January 31, 2019 4:39 pm at 4:39 pm #1671780
“…….Yeah! You don’t get benefit of the doubt when you are constantly bring down other Jews….”
Yup, that’s his thing alright. He’s a fanatical extremist, except to when it comes to geneivas daas of the blog and blasting Jews he doesn’t like with some interesting nom de plumes..January 31, 2019 4:40 pm at 4:40 pm #1671787
…… And, when does he learn Torah ..??January 31, 2019 5:26 pm at 5:26 pm #1672114
For any person that wrote negatively about the 5 towns will have their own problems. However you two who are now making a mock of a post that I wrote to try any stop the Lashon hara and Sinat Chinam of my community that’s a new level of disrespect. I don’t know who you think I am, and quite frankly I don’t care. If you would like to privately email me my one of my backup email accounts, I will gladly meet with you anyplace any time. If your not going to take these matters seriously, then please don’t post on this tread. I don’t need Jews that are just trying to cause problems on a thread I make to try and solve problems.January 31, 2019 5:26 pm at 5:26 pm #1672104
Justajew, why did you out yourself as a troll so soon? The tradition is to stay subtle for a little bit first.January 31, 2019 5:26 pm at 5:26 pm #1672103
OK, this is simply incomprehensible at this point.
Are these insults references that everyone is supposed to get? Are they even insults? I can’t tell. Am I the only one confused here?January 31, 2019 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #1672128YW Moderator-29 👨💻Moderator
If you dont like the other thread so much why dod you start it?January 31, 2019 6:54 pm at 6:54 pm #1672133anonymousParticipant
I agree. Five Towns is growing on Torah and ruchniyus. There are beautiful Kollelim, Yeshivos, Bais Yaakovs, Mikvaos mehudaros, a mehudar eiruv, etc..
The chessed performed by the Baal Habatim towards these Bnei Torah is unmatched in any community.
Most if the negative talked about in the other thread is about a modern orthodox element who shop in town. They don’t know any better and do not think they are doing anything wrong. On the contrary, they respect Bnei Torah and treat them in the highest regard.
I just wish the supermarkets would realize they have this Bnei Torah community here now. The Bnei Tirah don’t need to shop at the expensive lavish stores or eateries in town. But everyone needs food. The supermarkets do give discounts and gift cards to Bnei Torah, but the cost if food is so high, they are squeezing the less affluent families to the extreme.
Five Towns needs Lakewood style supermarkets, where there is selection at affordable prices!January 31, 2019 6:55 pm at 6:55 pm #1672135
You guys mamish got me. I’m not really sure why I did that MR YW Moderator. All I know is that I am thanking Hashem for every second I am alive. I am thanking Hashem for making me a Jew. And I am very proud to live in a house with a roof over my head. I’m not sure why I am being accused of the person I really am but I know everything is from Hashem. As a member of one of the 5 towns community it is my job to stick up for my fellow community members. I mamish made an account today just to protect my Jewish community from the loshon hara that was being shun upon them. I am a loving new and love my community which is just growing in Torah and chesed. And I feel obligated to stick up for not just my community but for any Jew or Jews that are being spoken about negatively.
Thank you all very much.January 31, 2019 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm #1672156
How do you know that the people you attack here are not also from the 5 towns?January 31, 2019 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #1672158
You did the good thing. Be blessed…….January 31, 2019 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm #1672236
“They don’t know any better and do not think they are doing anything wrong. On the contrary, they respect Bnei Torah and treat them in the highest regard.”
So, despite the town allegedly oozing with Bnei Torah and kollelim, the MO crowd still manages to “not know any better?” Yeah, I don’t buy it. You can’t have it bother ways. Either it’s a separatist MO enclave where they’re shut off from proper halachah, or they are fully aware of how wrong it is what they’re doing.February 1, 2019 7:24 am at 7:24 am #1672280knaidlachParticipant
anonymous ‘THE CHESSED PERFORMED BY BAAL HABATIM…..’
i think its בעלי בתים not בעל הבתים .
since you are ANONYMOUS, no one knows who you are, so i guess you are not offended by my comment. but in case you are, are you mochel me? im sure you are, you sound like a nice guy, you see the good in people, places etc.February 1, 2019 7:26 am at 7:26 am #1672283
Yo Berlin you gotta chill my man. Please stop speaking negatively about another Jewish community.
Kool Tov-Thank you very much.February 1, 2019 7:27 am at 7:27 am #1672287
Please no negativity on this thread Mr Berlin if you don’t have anything nice to say then please don’t say it.February 1, 2019 10:11 am at 10:11 am #1672343
Someone please tell YW editor to take Down Tzniut in the 5 towns!!!February 1, 2019 1:05 pm at 1:05 pm #1672395
We say “baalhabus,” “baalhabatim,” and “baalhabatish” as single words in the US. Hebrew-grammar wise, you’re correct.February 1, 2019 1:05 pm at 1:05 pm #1672404
Why can’t you tell him?February 2, 2019 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #1672534
He won’t listen I asked him 100 times RedyiddayaFebruary 2, 2019 6:53 pm at 6:53 pm #1672548
It’s quite absurd that one of the main rules of the coffe room is that there is no Lashon Hara allowed, and yet they let “Tzniut problems in the 5 towns” up.February 2, 2019 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm #1672602
It’s not lashon hara if it’s not specified which 5 towns they’re talking about.February 2, 2019 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm #1672633cholentmitkugelParticipant
Thanks for the descriptions. Now I’m convinced.
When I grow up, I want to make Aliya.
To Lawrence !!February 2, 2019 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm #1672628☕️coffee addictParticipant
Where is that referenced in חפץ חייםFebruary 3, 2019 1:29 am at 1:29 am #1672671
Why would it be lashon hara to say that there exist certain people who dress not b’tznius?February 3, 2019 2:25 am at 2:25 am #1672694WinnieThePoohParticipant
I think the proper Hebrew grammar would be “Baalei Bayit” not “Baalei Batim” just like it is “”batei sefer” and not “Batei Sefarim” or “Batei Kneset” and not “Batai Kenesiyot”February 3, 2019 7:17 am at 7:17 am #1672723
5 towns= TorahFebruary 3, 2019 7:17 am at 7:17 am #1672700
One is not allowed to target a certain community for not dressing Tzniut. Specifically when it’s not true.
5 Towns is a great Torah and chesed communityFebruary 3, 2019 9:55 am at 9:55 am #1672799
Tell editors to take it offFebruary 3, 2019 10:22 am at 10:22 am #1672811GadolhadorahParticipant
Is it not worse for some “towns” and “neighborhoods” to post signs on public streets demanding that women must walk on a certain side of the street and/or specifying what THEIR interpretation of hilchos tzinus requires? In some cases, municipalities have defied court orders to remove such signs out of fear of “offending” certain fringe elements of the Chareidi taibur. (Obviously I am not referring to 5T in this regard) Yes, women should exercise common sense and dress appropriately for the circumstances and venue, even if that is not their own hashkafah but there is no legal basis to attempt to enforce tzinius on a public streets, even if some non-religious seem to show total lack of respsect. With regard to this thread, I have been in 5T many times (both for shabbosim and during the week) and just haven’t seen anything that comes close to the flagrant and pervasive disregard of tzinius that some have described here. Fake news.February 3, 2019 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm #1672893
He didn’t say which 5 towns, so it’s not naming a specific community.February 3, 2019 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm #1672894
Justajew, why would the editor take it off if he doesn’t want to? If he would want to, he already would have done it.February 3, 2019 1:01 pm at 1:01 pm #1672921Shopping613 🌠Participant
GadolHadorah: Don’t get me onto the topic of signs.
I agree, they’re not right.
But it’s not worth fighting over, within hours a new one is up. If you don’t like it just ignore it.February 3, 2019 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm #1672934
Almost Every single person that looks at that post, thinks negatively about the 5 towns, that’s a fact. As Jews we can’t say things like this in a public chat!
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