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  • #1671377

    Justajew39
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    With all the negativity that has been going around about the 5 towns, I would like to point out how much growth there has been in the amount of Shiurim and Torah that goes on there. Yes not every community is perfect, but we must look at the good in every single Jew and in every single Jewish community. And Chas Vishalom to say something negative about any Jew or community. I’m sorry to anyone that lives in the 5 towns, or anyone that has been hurt by previous threads. For the 5 towns is one of the best Torah and chesed loving communities in the America.

    #1671457

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    100% true

    #1671465

    Neville ChaimBerlin
    Participant

    You’re just proving the point.

    #1671586

    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    To some of those living in Willy, BP or other crowded Brooklyn neighborhoods, 5T may seem OOT but it really has it all from the perspective of a frum couple or family seeking to relocate but stay close to real world, Housing is expensive but not much more so than those “in-town” neighborhoods. I don’t think any our friends or family in 5T really care about what some armchair poskim on an internet thread have to say about their frumkeit or pervasive problems with tzinius on the streets of their neighborhood.

    #1671588

    Justajew39
    Participant

    I just can’t understand why people are still commenting Lashon hara about a Jewish community. It doesn’t matter how some people dress. Your supposed to look at the good in every single jew. And it just hurts to see so many people fighting with one another about total nonsense.

    #1671602

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    It doesn’t matter how some people dress.

    That attitude is precisely what those posting negatively can claim is what they’re fighting against.

    #1671617

    Justajew39
    Participant

    There’s nothing to fight against! We’re all Jews! There’s only ONE that judeges us and that is Hashem! Of course it matters how you dress, but it is not our place to knock another Jew for that. For we have no right to judge.

    #1671618

    Justajew39
    Participant

    And “DaasYochid” I am not Chas vishalom saying anything against you. In fact your most probably right. That is exactly what they are arguing about. But still, as Jews we may not look down upon one another.

    #1671637

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    We do need to judge others’ actions. You, in fact, judged others’ actions (posting) as wrong because you feel it’s lashon hora.

    I agree about the looking down, and in many cases, judging motivations and levels of nisayon.

    I think what’s bothering you is that you’re getting a feeling that posters just want to knock others to make themselves feel superior, and not l’shem shomayim. You might be correct. Perhaps, though, you might want to constantly if you’re judging correctly…

    Either way, wrong is wrong and must be judged as such.

    #1671653

    Justajew39
    Participant

    You don’t need to bring others down to pick yourself up! Let Hashem judge, not you!

    #1671651

    Justajew39
    Participant

    Your wrong!!! Ever heard of benefit of the doubt!

    #1671680

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Your wrong!!!

    You’re judging me? Maybe you should give me the benefit of the doubt?

    #1671697

    Justajew39
    Participant

    Your one of the chutzpanicks that cause all the problems for this website. So to the Bais Medrish and don’t come out until you get some manners!

    #1671698

    Justajew39
    Participant

    Yeah! You don’t get benefit of the doubt when you are constantly bring down other Jews

    #1671705

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Um… Okay, I guess…

    #1671739

    Shopping613 🌠
    Participant

    @justajew39

    You can’t judge one another for sure, but we definitely need to speak about things that affect other people in the community, whether it’s an issue of bullying in schools or przitus on the street. No I can’t take people aside and force them to do things, but we must think as a community, as a klal what we can do to improve the general atmosphere and makes things easier for people.

    #1671756

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Justajew, you had me there for a while, nice troll job.

    Are you the same troll as the other 5T thread? If I were a betting man…

    #1671771

    ZionGate
    Participant

    From DaasYochid with a straight face :

    “……..nice troll job…..”Are you the same troll as the other 5T thread?”

    The Bobbsey Twins and MORE …. Haaaaahh
    You can fool some of the people…..etc..etc…
    That’s a good one.

    #1671780

    ZionGate
    Participant

    “…….Yeah! You don’t get benefit of the doubt when you are constantly bring down other Jews….”

    Yup, that’s his thing alright. He’s a fanatical extremist, except to when it comes to geneivas daas of the blog and blasting Jews he doesn’t like with some interesting nom de plumes..

    #1671787

    ZionGate
    Participant

    …… And, when does he learn Torah ..??

    #1672114

    Justajew39
    Participant

    For any person that wrote negatively about the 5 towns will have their own problems. However you two who are now making a mock of a post that I wrote to try any stop the Lashon hara and Sinat Chinam of my community that’s a new level of disrespect. I don’t know who you think I am, and quite frankly I don’t care. If you would like to privately email me my one of my backup email accounts, I will gladly meet with you anyplace any time. If your not going to take these matters seriously, then please don’t post on this tread. I don’t need Jews that are just trying to cause problems on a thread I make to try and solve problems.

    #1672104

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Justajew, why did you out yourself as a troll so soon? The tradition is to stay subtle for a little bit first.

    #1672103

    Neville ChaimBerlin
    Participant

    OK, this is simply incomprehensible at this point.

    Are these insults references that everyone is supposed to get? Are they even insults? I can’t tell. Am I the only one confused here?

    #1672128

    If you dont like the other thread so much why dod you start it?

    #1672133

    anonymous
    Participant

    I agree. Five Towns is growing on Torah and ruchniyus. There are beautiful Kollelim, Yeshivos, Bais Yaakovs, Mikvaos mehudaros, a mehudar eiruv, etc..

    The chessed performed by the Baal Habatim towards these Bnei Torah is unmatched in any community.

    Most if the negative talked about in the other thread is about a modern orthodox element who shop in town. They don’t know any better and do not think they are doing anything wrong. On the contrary, they respect Bnei Torah and treat them in the highest regard.

    I just wish the supermarkets would realize they have this Bnei Torah community here now. The Bnei Tirah don’t need to shop at the expensive lavish stores or eateries in town. But everyone needs food. The supermarkets do give discounts and gift cards to Bnei Torah, but the cost if food is so high, they are squeezing the less affluent families to the extreme.

    Five Towns needs Lakewood style supermarkets, where there is selection at affordable prices!

    #1672135

    Justajew39
    Participant

    You guys mamish got me. I’m not really sure why I did that MR YW Moderator. All I know is that I am thanking Hashem for every second I am alive. I am thanking Hashem for making me a Jew. And I am very proud to live in a house with a roof over my head. I’m not sure why I am being accused of the person I really am but I know everything is from Hashem. As a member of one of the 5 towns community it is my job to stick up for my fellow community members. I mamish made an account today just to protect my Jewish community from the loshon hara that was being shun upon them. I am a loving new and love my community which is just growing in Torah and chesed. And I feel obligated to stick up for not just my community but for any Jew or Jews that are being spoken about negatively.
    Thank you all very much.

    #1672156

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    How do you know that the people you attack here are not also from the 5 towns?

    #1672158

    ZionGate
    Participant

    Justajew,
    You did the good thing. Be blessed…….

    #1672236

    Neville ChaimBerlin
    Participant

    “They don’t know any better and do not think they are doing anything wrong. On the contrary, they respect Bnei Torah and treat them in the highest regard.”

    So, despite the town allegedly oozing with Bnei Torah and kollelim, the MO crowd still manages to “not know any better?” Yeah, I don’t buy it. You can’t have it bother ways. Either it’s a separatist MO enclave where they’re shut off from proper halachah, or they are fully aware of how wrong it is what they’re doing.

    #1672280

    knaidlach
    Participant

    anonymous ‘THE CHESSED PERFORMED BY BAAL HABATIM…..’
    i think its בעלי בתים not בעל הבתים .
    since you are ANONYMOUS, no one knows who you are, so i guess you are not offended by my comment. but in case you are, are you mochel me? im sure you are, you sound like a nice guy, you see the good in people, places etc.

    #1672283

    Justajew39
    Participant

    Yo Berlin you gotta chill my man. Please stop speaking negatively about another Jewish community.
    Kool Tov-Thank you very much.

    #1672287

    Justajew39
    Participant

    Please no negativity on this thread Mr Berlin if you don’t have anything nice to say then please don’t say it.

    #1672343

    Justajew39
    Participant

    Someone please tell YW editor to take Down Tzniut in the 5 towns!!!

    #1672395

    Neville ChaimBerlin
    Participant

    Knaid:
    We say “baalhabus,” “baalhabatim,” and “baalhabatish” as single words in the US. Hebrew-grammar wise, you’re correct.

    #1672404

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Why can’t you tell him?

    #1672534

    Justajew39
    Participant

    He won’t listen I asked him 100 times Redyiddaya

    #1672548

    Justajew39
    Participant

    It’s quite absurd that one of the main rules of the coffe room is that there is no Lashon Hara allowed, and yet they let “Tzniut problems in the 5 towns” up.

    #1672602

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    It’s not lashon hara if it’s not specified which 5 towns they’re talking about.

    #1672633

    cholentmitkugel
    Participant

    Thanks for the descriptions. Now I’m convinced.
    When I grow up, I want to make Aliya.
    To Lawrence !!

    #1672628

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Ry23

    Where is that referenced in חפץ חיים

    #1672671

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Why would it be lashon hara to say that there exist certain people who dress not b’tznius?

    #1672694

    WinnieThePooh
    Participant

    I think the proper Hebrew grammar would be “Baalei Bayit” not “Baalei Batim” just like it is “”batei sefer” and not “Batei Sefarim” or “Batei Kneset” and not “Batai Kenesiyot”

    #1672723

    Justajew39
    Participant

    5 towns= Torah

    #1672700

    Justajew39
    Participant

    Reb yiddaya
    One is not allowed to target a certain community for not dressing Tzniut. Specifically when it’s not true.
    5 Towns is a great Torah and chesed community

    #1672799

    Justajew39
    Participant

    Tell editors to take it off

    #1672811

    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    Is it not worse for some “towns” and “neighborhoods” to post signs on public streets demanding that women must walk on a certain side of the street and/or specifying what THEIR interpretation of hilchos tzinus requires? In some cases, municipalities have defied court orders to remove such signs out of fear of “offending” certain fringe elements of the Chareidi taibur. (Obviously I am not referring to 5T in this regard) Yes, women should exercise common sense and dress appropriately for the circumstances and venue, even if that is not their own hashkafah but there is no legal basis to attempt to enforce tzinius on a public streets, even if some non-religious seem to show total lack of respsect. With regard to this thread, I have been in 5T many times (both for shabbosim and during the week) and just haven’t seen anything that comes close to the flagrant and pervasive disregard of tzinius that some have described here. Fake news.

    #1672893

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    He didn’t say which 5 towns, so it’s not naming a specific community.

    #1672894

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Justajew, why would the editor take it off if he doesn’t want to? If he would want to, he already would have done it.

    #1672921

    Shopping613 🌠
    Participant

    GadolHadorah: Don’t get me onto the topic of signs.
    I agree, they’re not right.
    But it’s not worth fighting over, within hours a new one is up. If you don’t like it just ignore it.

    #1672934

    Justajew39
    Participant

    Almost Every single person that looks at that post, thinks negatively about the 5 towns, that’s a fact. As Jews we can’t say things like this in a public chat!

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