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  • Started 4 months ago by vitalmudo biyado
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  1. vitalmudo biyado
    Member

    has anyone found a good method of doing chazarah that's both doable (not too intense) and effective

    Posted 4 months ago #
  2. WIY
    Member

    There are various effective methods. If you want to see a website dedicated to chazara (they have programs for basically any sefer go there and you will really enjoy) try googling "dafyomireview" and it should bring up their website.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  3. sam4321
    Member

    The gemara in Eruvin(54b) discusses chazrah and its importance. The gemara mentions that chazarah was done 4 times by Moshe Rabbeinu,and then goes on to explain the importance of mnemonics to remember each suyga easily. So 4 times might be a start.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  4. ItcheSrulik
    Resident College "Shaigetz"

    Which seforim?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  5. DaasYochid
    Member

    Make sure you use a blech.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  6. real-brisker
    Now that's Brisk, Baby!

    DY - :)

    Posted 4 months ago #
  7. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; semi-retarded; eccentric; perhaps a woman; not Mod 80. Sometimes a bit over the top.

    chazarah comes from the root of "chazer"-- "pig".
    If you want to chazer correctly, you need to do it like a pig, and grab every moment you can.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  8. ItcheSrulik
    Resident College "Shaigetz"

    According to some studies chazara works best when you pig out on food while doing it.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  9. DaasYochid
    Member

    Oh, THAT kind of chazarah. ;)

    Seriously, the Dirshu method is very effective. I may have the details wrong, but it goes something like this:

    Every day, learn a particular amount, after chazering the limud from the previous day.

    Chazer everything from the week on Shabbos.

    Chazer all of that once a month.

    This is short term, aside from any project to constantly chazer all previous limudim.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  10. Abelleh
    Member

    I would recommend the Kerem Yehoshoua (an English sefer; I forget the author... his name is probably Yehoshuoa). I used it a few times, and thought it was fantastic. He gives a study plan (which I no longer use) and a methodology for chazara (which I still try to use). Both are great

    Posted 4 months ago #
  11. WIY
    Member

    ItcheSrulik
    Check out dafyomireview dot com

    Posted 4 months ago #
  12. MDG
    Member

    "I would recommend the Kerem Yehoshoua (an English sefer; I forget the author... his name is probably Yehoshuoa). "

    Last name, I think, is Cohen.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  13. HaLeiVi
    HaLeiVi is Supposedly not Joseph

    When you complete a Sugya, it is a good idea to do what the Tana'im did. You find many Mishnayos and Braysos that give you a number of times that you would be Chayav or Patur.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  14. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; semi-retarded; eccentric; perhaps a woman; not Mod 80. Sometimes a bit over the top.

    It is important when you chazer to learn something new in the material each time- not to just chew the exact same thing all over again. Like a chazer that doesn't chew its cud.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  15. feivel
    talmid

    The gemara mentions that chazarah was done 4 times by Moshe Rabbeinu

    if you look at any page of Gemorah you will notice there are 4 lines of Rashi, and 4 lines of Tosfos above the Gemorah. some think that is a remez to chazarah 4 times

    Posted 4 months ago #
  16. feivel
    talmid

    this is a little tangential, but does apply to chazarah.
    i just heard a few minutes ago on a tape from Rabbi Avigdor Miller, tz'l,
    that when learning Gemorah it is advisable to have in mind that you are going to have to say over the sugya, or the Tosfos or whatever, to someone later that day, like youre going to give a Shiur to young Bochrim. then say it over to yourself without looking in the Gemorrah.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  17. HaLeiVi
    HaLeiVi is Supposedly not Joseph

    I've noticed that a great time to Chazzer is when it is not fresh in your mind anymore, but before it is completely gone. This way you get to have a fresh look at the Sugya while reaping the rewards of what you put in last time.

    When doing it this way you see clearly everything that was confusing before. This is what Chazal mean by Halomed V'eino Chozer Kizorei'a V'eino Kotzer -- One who learns and does not Chazzer is as one who plants but does not return to cut his stalks.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  18. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; semi-retarded; eccentric; perhaps a woman; not Mod 80. Sometimes a bit over the top.

    The proper way to chazer, is to get down and dirty in the material. Like chazers do. You can't just read quickly through it and rely on how you understood it last time; you need to get into it again.

    I want you to all pay attention to the way I continue to make my joke even though everybody is ignoring it. Like Dovid Hamelech said, על כן שמתי פני כחלמיש ואדע כי לא אבוש.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  19. HaLeiVi
    HaLeiVi is Supposedly not Joseph

    Popa, yes I smiled to myself, perhaps even chuckled. Should I write, CTM?

    If you keep repeating your Moiradike Remez you're gonna start believing it.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  20. hello99
    Member

    take a position where people ask you questions. after getting stumped once or twice you'll find yourself VERY motivated to chazer.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  21. ZeesKite
    Because Mommy Said So

    Popa: There was this daf yomi maggid shiur in Monsey about two years ago found selling... Anyways, when getting ready to run off, his shiur asked him what to do. His reply "Chazer, Chazer, Chazer"

    Posted 4 months ago #
  22. WIY
    Member

    Did anyone here actually check out the website I recommended?

    Posted 4 months ago #

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