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And did you type your screen name with a straight face? Not that it’s funny, I meant straight face vs frown.
The term orthodox rabbi has been fast becoming meaningless.
Looks like he may have changed his mind. Rabbis can do that.
One can learn the Tractate of Shabbos and then state that he personally finds the opinion of Rabbi A more understandable to him, even though that Halacha follows Rabbi B. This way we are allowed to think, but do not end up with over one million versions of Shabbos.
Rabbi Shai Piron is a respected rabbi in the dati leumi world.
I don’t know if he is related to the famous Rav Piron, who was chief rabbi of the IDF, and who does interreligious work.
Yesh Atid’s Rabbi Piron seems to have shifted from the more Hardal perspective to a more liberal one on renting houses to nochrim in E”Y. Truthfully, those like R’ Aharon Lichtenstein and Rav Elyashiv, who opposed the ban on renting to Arabs, are merely citing the Rema. Furthermore, the Rambam said that Muslims aren’t ovdei avodah zarah.
Those who restrict renting to Arabs are acting with safety in mind, and I respect this. Also, there is a Ran to Sanhedrin 61, IIRC, which says Moslems are baalei avoda zara.
Chances are R’ Piron used to be a real Tzioni and now he swallowed the Meimad mentality.
Left wing dati politics in Israel are nothing new. Moshe Unna in the 50s, Rav Michael Melchior and Rav Yehuda Amital with Meimad, and now, Yesh Atid rabbanim share much in common.
You’re going to see closer ties between Rabbanei Tzohar and Yesh Atid. We really need an approach which: helps improve relationships between the secular and Yahadut, by rebuilding a Tzioni-style Rabbanut like R’ Uziel and R’ Goren, while embracing commitment to the ideals of R’ Goren- no land for peace, support for the chalutzim, Jewish sovereignty over Har HaBayit, economic liberalization (ie/less regulation), no prisoner exchanges, etc.
I generally support Manhigut Yehudit in Israeli elections, although I am also sympathetic to some Kach ideas seen in the National Union, while hoping for a more moderate approach to state religion.
Charlie, interesting spin, but that’s not what it sounds like. It sounds like there’s a disconnect in his mind between Torah and reality.
Josh, he’s not personally understanding the sugya differently than the poskim. He’s putting politics ahead of truth.
DY: Or he’s saving political face while at the same time presenting truth. That is a way (maybe not one I would choose, but a way) to maybe get the anti- and non-religious to still respect Lomdei Torah when they obviously had no respect for the Torah itself.
What’s the issue? Halacha is not black and white. When asked a shaila, a good posek will tailor their response to the persons hashkafa. The answer, while within halacha may not represent the poseks personal practice.
The real problem is when halachic views are changed in response to political pressure.
There is ground to hold either way. People evolve in their worldviews.
I don’t know him, and I didn’t hear him make this statement. According to the quote attributed to him (or at least his spokesperson) he did not change his mind. He is saying that his personal viewpoint is not in accordance with halachah.
The quote: “The Kippa website regularly responds to Halachic questions. The respond (sic) given by Rabbi Piron reflects the Halacha, but it is not reflective of his personal viewpoint” does not refer to two different opinions in halachah, a halachic response tailored to a specific hashkafah, a way of trying to appease the secular with a halachic perspective, or a change of mind. It clearly refers to his personal viewpoint being against the halachic viewpoint. In other words, “The Torah is racist, but I am not”.
That idea (which I don’t necessarily attribute to him, but the quote does) is repulsive.
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