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  • #1473855

    achdus
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    Anyone who suffers from being overweight was just slighted and insulted by Oorah. Have they no shame? Is everything a big FAT joke?

    They make fun of every other Tzedakah in their latest video. Who doe they think they are?

    Who is the Rov who actually signs off on this insanity?

    Shame on them.

    THE VIDEO:

    THE JINGLE:

    #1473864

    Meno
    Participant

    I’m overweight and I don’t feel insulted

    #1473874

    Joseph
    Participant

    Where did they make fun of any other tzedaka?

    #1473878

    ChongRymer
    Member

    @joseph – Watch the video. No need to always take the other side of every post unless it’s your own. The poster is right.

    #1473902

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Its a Purim schpiel, Sometimes people just need to relax and laugh

    #1473897

    Neville ChaimBerlin
    Participant

    OK, I was ready to exit this thread without comment because it’s totally uninteresting, but…

    This caused me to go down an Oorah rabbit hole… They’re the ones behind Kars4Kids?!?!?!?!

    Those commercials play on the most local of radio stations in the middle of goyishe nowhere! How is this not the richest Jewish organization on earth?

    #1473896

    Takes2-2tango
    Participant

    Joseph, is this ad zilzul hashem or chillul hashem?
    Is it ok to sing rap or does it fall into a catagory of minhag hamakom?

    #1473891

    Toi
    Participant

    I just think it’s gross, not batamt, and goyish. But hey, it’ll sell, and that’s what they care about.

    #1473890

    Not Shayich
    Participant

    they didnt make fun of anyother tzdkah orginzations they are made up names

    #1473884

    The little I know
    Participant

    Sorry, but the entire concept is goyish. I am so offended by the burying into gashmiyus that I refuse to donate a single penny to this organization. I was always bothered by the huge expenses they incur with their overly lavish and costly ad campaigns. To be honest, some have actually been interesting. But this is not tzedokoh. I do not even care whether they consider is cost effective for them. It is plainly disgusting, and has absolutely nothing in common with a Torah set of values.

    This next statement is nasty, but here goes. I hope everyone else is so offended by this that we collectively lodge our revulsion, and withhold money from them until this goyish set of values stops. I am not making a statement about the organization, just the campaign.

    #1473930

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    I understand why people would be offended by this, but if anything, Lose4Autism (and Oorah itself) should be offended, because this entire ad campaign is just making fun of them.

    #1473949

    Me12345
    Participant

    I’m gonna bring another angle into this. I’m not upset at making fun of lose4autism… I understand that it’s a Purim joke. They’re making fun of what lose4autism is all about though, which is our autistic kids.
    There are some lines that we just don’t cross and making fun of special needs is one of those lines!!

    #1473944

    Me12345
    Participant

    Tlik;
    “This next statement is nasty, but here goes. I hope everyone else is so offended by this that we collectively lodge our revulsion, and withhold money from them until this goyish set of values stops”
    Do you honestly think that you and all the coffee room readers are gonna put an end to oorah? They’re sitting on millions of dollars by our dear goyishe neighbors others who are foolishly donating their cars (and real estate) to kars4kids!! The only way to put a stop to this madness is find incriminating evidence of where these MILLIONS are disappearing to.

    And I wish you good luck because no lawsuit against them ever got anywhere

    #1473956

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    They are making fun of Lose4Autism, not Imrei Binah.

    #1473967

    Meno
    Participant

    I’m still not getting how this is insulting to anyone or any organization. Can someone explain it to me?

    #1473988

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    The video is full of fat jokes. It’s making fun of the extreme fund-raising campaigns, and it contains the lyrics “even though they’ll probably just spend it on an ad”

    #1473996

    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
    Participant

    I’m seriously overweight and I found it really funny. I don’t care for weight loss contests so I really don’t mind someone making fun of lose4autism. Those fake contests were really creative. It’s hard to think of something more gross than licking adhesive stamps. I loved all the realistic marketing materials, and how they said that they have to keep thinking of new ways of getting money from gvirim. I only heard two fat jokes and one of them was just making fun of Chris Christie. Poor singer/rapper. His mouth must have felt totally gross from the adhesive.

    #1474006

    Rockaway Resident
    Participant

    You’re all a bunch of crybabies. There’s nothing wrong with this video. Get a life.

    Zahavasdad is exactly correct.

    #1474015

    Meno
    Participant

    Still not getting it.

    -Talking about eating a lot of food is a fat joke?

    -“Extreme fundraising” is not intended to be serious, it’s supposed to attract attention. What’s wrong with joking about that?

    -There’s something wrong with oorah making fun of themselves in their own video?

    The real irony is that a rant like this will no doubt just get them more publicity

    #1474029

    jayf
    Participant

    I think most people with a small sense of humor can appreciate this. I don’t think it brings down bike4chai or lose4autism at all.

    But i’m a fan of Oorah’s work too – so that probably puts me at odds with most commentators here. I’m part of their Torah Mates program (A weekly kiruv chavrusah for a few years now) and I’ve been to an Oorah holiday retreat at their upstate campus. I’ve seen their work first hand, and I can’t help but be really impressed.

    I don’t understand the hatred that some commentators here have for Oorah.

    I donate to Bike4Chai every year. This year I will Eat4Oorah too.

    #1474033

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Rockaway Resident, do you really have nothing better to do than tell people online to get a life? You’re that triggered by people expressing their concerns? I feel sorry for you.

    #1474034

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Meno,

    1. No, but there are such jokes in the video. I can’t point them out because I am unable to see the video on the computer I’m using right now, and I’ve forgotten the specifics.
    2. People who do take extreme fundraising seriously now might think that all the money raised by these campaigns is spent on ads, when really it’s only about 85%.
    3. To us, no. To them, yes.

    About the more publicity, people who are offended probably don’t mind that. They’d rather get more publicity but get Oorah to make a statement.

    #1474036

    commonsense
    Participant

    can someone explain is this a real thing or a joke? are people really doing it?

    #1474093

    Shopping613 🌠
    Participant

    Do you even know what the halochos of chilul Hashem are?
    Did you check, read sefarim, and ask a Rav possibly if this constitutes a chilul hashem before making that assumption.

    Also, it’s a joke.
    If anyone thinks this is serious, even goyim, they must need mental help.

    #1474110

    ubiquitin
    Participant

    I was very insulted!
    I serve on the board of Zichron Zalman my children attend Mesivta of Nashville I was recently honored by Ateres Zekeinim, , I am a supporter of benei melachim, and vaad lichizuk mitzvos rikkah b’aLeinu K’hilchasa does vital work in being mechazek a neglected mitzva.

    All of their recent ad campaigns have been very real and vital to their success. and while I am dizzy from pogoing and my tongue is dry from all the stamp licking Nobody has the right to make fun of our wonderful campaigns!

    #1474118

    DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Ubiquitin, a freilichin Purim to you too.

    #1474133

    Neville ChaimBerlin
    Participant

    Me123:

    Why would you want a lawsuit to work against them? I’m not asking rhetorically; I don’t know much about this organization and I don’t understand why Jews would dislike them.

    I don’t see how kars4kids is doing anything wrong under American law. Kars4OrthodoxJewishKids certainly doesn’t sound as nice. Many if not most charities are associated with some religion, and are not required to state so in every ad campaign.

    From the ethical standpoint, yeah, we weren’t born yesterday. Clearly they’re advertising in locations where people have never even met an Orthodox Jew in hopes of tricking them (this isn’t an argument in court). Who cares though? As long as they’re doing good work, why not tap into goyishe donors who wouldn’t otherwise give?

    #1474135

    nishtdayngesheft
    Participant

    This is going to sound somewhat in the Spirit of Vnohapoch Hu, but I agree with ZD on this.

    #1474145

    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    Nisht you made my day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1474157

    Me12345
    Participant

    Neville;
    I was responding to Tlik. Getting the ywn coffee room readers to stop donating to oorah won’t bring them down. They’re sitting on MILLIONS of dollars. I responded to him that if he really wants to bring down oorah he needs to figure out a way of suing them and it gas to be original because they’ve been in many lawsuits before and they’re still scamming away!!

    Refer back to Tlik above post

    #1474153

    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
    Participant

    Ubiquitin- how did licking adhesive stamps work out? Does it dry your tongue out more or less than old fashioned stamps

    #1474152

    MalachOfCholent
    Participant

    WOW, chill guys, i would never have imagined this to be a thread, i fail to understand whats insulting in this purim ‘venahafoch hu’ joke or why anyone thinks its making fun by mentioning other campaigns.
    i truly enjoyed watching the video. thanks Meno for pointing out everything instead of me.

    #1474146

    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    (I hope you’ll pop in more often)

    #1474209

    MalachOfCholent
    Participant

    why do you care so much that you’d want to take away their donors?

    #1474232

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    In the Alter Helm, there was at Purim a person who would get up and make fun of the Rebbe and give out “Brachas” and “Pskas” . Everyone knew it was a Purim Schpiel, even the Rebbe would laugh

    #1474350

    huju
    Participant

    Never mind the insult to fat guys. Isn’t gluttony of the kind being advertised and encouraged a serious breach of several mitzvahs? I even wonder why YWN would consider r.unning the ad

    #1474717

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    People who feel offended don’t have to justify their feelings to make them real. They don’t get veto power, but they should at least be heard.

    #1475083

    Neville ChaimBerlin
    Participant

    “People who feel offended don’t have to justify their feelings to make them real. They don’t get veto power, but they should at least be heard.”

    No they shouldn’t. America is sick of crybabies! Go cry in a corner on your own; nobody cares about your feelings! This is 2018. America is supposed to be great again!

    Is it not possible that this whole thread is a Purim schtick? Because the entire idea of this ad being a Chillul hashem seems like a joke to me.

    #1475104

    apushatayid
    Participant

    “the entire concept is goyish”

    The entire concept is a JOKE.

    Try to “register” or “sponsor” someone for this campaign on their website and see where it takes you.

    #1475153

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Neville, what makes you feel that way?

    #1475159

    Me12345
    Participant

    Apushatayid:

    “The entire concept is a JOKE.

    Try to “register” or “sponsor” someone for this campaign on their website and see where it takes you”
    A joke is something that’s funny. If 1 person gets insulted that’s called making fun!!! Purim doesn’t mean that people don’t have feelings!

    #1475162

    DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Me12345, what if I told you that your post insulted me?

    #1475174

    apushatayid
    Participant

    Moderators, please delete the last post by ME12345 to me. I am insulted.

    #1475175

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    DaasYochid, you would be lying.

    #1475179

    apushatayid
    Participant

    “A joke is something that’s funny.”

    The teller thought it was funny.

    “If 1 person gets insulted that’s called making fun!!! ”

    Only in the eyes of the insulted person. the teller thinks it was a funny joke, unless the teller is in the habit of telling boring, stupid jokes.

    “Purim doesn’t mean that people don’t have feelings!”

    Therefore?

    #1475307

    A 3rd thing – those charities probably aren’t using
    their funds to provide religious services (etc).

    #1475305

    Many if not most charities are associated with some religion,
    and are not required to state so in every ad campaign.

    True, but it’s probably safe to assume that those charities don’t
    focus on giving specifically to people of their religion, and don’t
    have the explicit goal of getting people to practice their religion.

    #1475303

    I found myself trying to convince family members that
    the campaign was a joke (last week, before the video).

    #1475481

    Neville ChaimBerlin
    Participant

    Yeah, it’s time to give up. The internet mob has spoken consistently for years: when easily offended people get offended at a silly, harmless joke, it makes the joke more funny not less.

    #1475483

    Neville ChaimBerlin
    Participant

    Random: I totally agree with you, but I don’t know that any of those points would matter in a civil court.

    As far as ethically, yes there are surely many goyim who would willingly give their clunkers to better the education of children, but would suddenly revoke that willingness if they knew those children were Orthodox Jews. Are you bothered if those particular people are misled into donating to a good cause? I’m not.

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