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  • #603534

    coffee addict
    Participant

    I take it ZK has taken a leave of absence due to this thread

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/so-why-am-i-going-to-citifield

    I think it’s a shame we have to start calling people names and labeling people as J again just because they don’t agree with your views

    I’m even more ashamed at the MODS who let those posts go through

    Haven’t we learned ANYTHING

    Im starting to feel sorry I tried defending someone here that was blocked (Hamayvin yavin)

    However ZK if you are reading this I just thought this morning “Hey where is ZK” 😉

    Now I really understand what people say that even the frum sites have Lashon Hara etc.

  • #914137

    gefen
    Member

    Zeeskite – don’t take one person to heart (or even a few). There are always posters here who can be quite nasty.

    I for one happen to like you (or what I know of you from the cr). Most of the time we are on the same page… but even when we’re not- who cares? We are all entitled to our opinions. The idea is to be able to express them without being bashed.

    Coffee Addict – I agree with you totally. When will we learn????

  • #914138

    SaysMe
    Member

    and of all ppl, ZK?? Pullease. Sweet, innocent, fun-having ZK? I think not.

    I so wish those posts would never have gone up, and i hope they will quickly come down! And that apologies are made, tho i know they won’t be. Its onaas dvorim and nothing but! Grrrrrr!

  • #914139

    ZeesKite
    Participant

    Hi, CA.

    No. It’s not that at all that kept me away for some time. Iv’e taken a bigger, much bigger beating in the past. One that really sent me reeling (bawling). Still, I came back. I learnt (and still continue to learn) how to communicate, interact etc. (hence ‘Midos under construction’)

    It’s just that lately with this awareness of internet dangers (and accessories), I’d like to wait, to decide what to do. On one hand, while I don’t know if anyone appreciates (or puts up with) my input over here, I certainly enjoy it (oh, really). It gives me feeling of togetherness, camaraderie, friendship. Learning different subject, debating, discussing. Watching human interactions, different personalities as they engage in open (and closed) dialog. Real fun, interesting. Then there’s maybe a bit of humor someone (or humble me) puts in, to brighten the day, a sunshine for us to smile at. ???? ?????? ??????. Also I maybe, could be, honed some writing skills (thank you chrome auto-spell-checker), Mommy would be proud of.

    On the other hand, maybe it’s not the right thing. Too much online, (must I say the word ‘addiction’?) Maybe it’s bitul zman, although any shmoozing would be considered so.

    So I’m a bit confused. I wanted to wait, to see when the dust settles, how ‘Klal Yisroel’ would react. Right now most people I see are still ‘under the influence’, under the spell of the ruach of the Gedolim’s asifa. It’s too hard to see where it’s heading to. Are all non-business related going to be banned? Is that ??? ?????? ?????? ?????? (I could argue that it’s business related because YW – our gracious host – maybe gets some business through our posts, some would call that a stomach thought.) How much permitted, prohibited.

    I didn’t want to be the ??, the scoffer who undoes the ‘hundred admonishments’, one of those who ????? ???? writes ??? ?? ??? ????? ???. I certainly do not want in the least to break the powerful effect, spell the Gedolim, the great Asifa itself, cast over the public.

  • #914140

    Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    CA: I am speaking out of great respect for you so please make the effort to understand that. I have NOT read the posts in question, but I believe strongly that you are making assumptions and stating them as fact, and you would do better to level opinions instead of accusations. Sometimes these seemingly heroic protests are more damaging than you intend or realize.

  • #914141

    shteltzoo
    Member

    coffee addict- you are a true addict and are out of control it is because of people like you that stories get misinterpretted bringing up

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/so-why-am-i-going-to-citifield

    was completely uncalled for!

  • #914142

    coffee addict
    Participant

    syag,

    what’s stopping you from reading the posts in question?

  • #914143

    Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    that’s your response? I said I was answering your post, not commenting on the thread.

  • #914144

    coffee addict
    Participant

    I apologize for my misunderstanding the situation (I’ve stated in the past that I sometimes put 2 and 2 together and make 5), it just really upsets me when people are called names I think its the worst insult in the world.

  • #914145

    HaLeiVi
    Member

    I really don’t think ZK’s absence has anything to do with one hothead’s remarks. Perhaps ZK is busy these days or was inspired by the Asifa to waste less time. Perhaps a little of both.

  • #914146

    Health
    Participant

    CA -“Im starting to feel sorry I tried defending someone here that was blocked (Hamayvin yavin)”

    Having Charatah on doing a good deed -just takes away any Schar you might have had.

    “Now I really understand what people say that even the frum sites have Lashon Hara etc.”

    Whatever I said was definitely Not LH. Learn the Halachos.

  • #914147

    Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    CA: I dont like name calling either but I have noticed that you sometimes jump to defend posters who were called names without noticing that perhaps they had asked for it on some level. I think when posters twist other posters words into things they never said and then slam them for saying it it brings a lot of discord, and people dont always respond with restraint. And this happens a lot in political threads. However, I find these bandwagon threads calling for justice on a crime that never happened spread negativity. But I do think you do it with a caring heart and all the right intentions. JMO for whatever its worth.

  • #914148

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Is that why? I assume when someone leaves that its because joseph has emailed them and threatened them unless they leave.

    Just sayin’

  • #914149

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Is that why? I assume when someone leaves that its because joseph has emailed them and threatened them unless they leave.

    Just sayin’

  • #914150

    Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    I did a bad job of trying to explain myself (late at night on my keyboardless phone) I can’t decide if its worth clarifying or waiting for it all to go away.

    Just one explanation:

    I said – “However, I find these bandwagon threads calling for justice on a crime that never happened spread negativity.”

    You opened this with a comment about someone leaving because of a certain thread, putting down the MODS for their modding, mussering the posters for their general LH, and insulting someone you defended. In the end, she hadn’t really “left” and not for that reason. So your thread put down a lot of people unnecessarily, though well meant.

    I think that is what I was trying to say.

  • #914151

    ZeesKite
    Participant

    Syag: Contrary to popular belief, I too have feelings. Sometimes more sometimes less. I too get moody (understatement). Sometimes depxxxxed too. So sometimes things hurt me a lot more than other times. If I’m down and someone chooses to sling a good one at me (not that I don’t deserve it), it may knock me down hard. So no, no one should really resort to name calling etc. I hope, sincerely hope I have not done the same. If I did, if anyone was hurt or slighted through me, I humbly beg forgiveness.

    In this case however it just happens to be I was not so put down. Why? Don’t know. Maybe I told myself (I talk to myself) to let it pass. Maybe I said let the stab be a kapara. Maybe I thought that he’s a big Talmid Chacham, and it’s his Torah that’s boiling in him. ??????? ??? ????. Don’t know. I just somehow let it pass.

    And about the debate itself, I just have no wish to continue, not that I concede at all. In fact HaLeiVi started a thread on this same topic – showing the true meaning of the sources, corroborating my stance (it’s not my own, obviously, it’s from the books I come in contact with). In fact I have many other sources and references that HaLeiVi didn’t mention. It’s just that at some point (where no chilul HaShem or bezayon Torah or Talmid Chacham is involved), arguing and debating further serves no point.

    Now, where’s the <BACK TO THE FUN> button?

  • #914152

    Health
    Participant

    To those posters that insulted me -now that you see I was right -you should apologize to me. If you still don’t think I was right -ask Aries. When I cast a poster as s/o else like I did in this case -it’s because I had a gut feeling.

  • #914153

    HaLeiVi
    Member

    -now that you see I was right -you should apologize to me

    Not only don’t you regret shaming someone, you actually think you deserve an apology!?

  • #914155

    Health
    Participant

    HaLeiVi – “HaLeiVi is Supposedly not Joseph”

    Who decided you’re not, maybe you are.

    “Not only don’t you regret shaming someone, you actually think you deserve an apology!?”

    Whoever you are – you just lied. I never shamed anyone in this situation. Why do you think you can just make up things and then ask questions on them?

  • #914156

    Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    And why do the mods let some people be as agressive as they want but my posts which, though angry, are not disrespectful and have all been deleted.

  • #914157

    am yisrael chai
    Participant

    Good question, Syag.

  • #914158

    Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    thanks 🙂

  • #914159

    ZeesKite
    Participant

    AYC, Thanks for your grand appearance!! (thanks for your unheeded commendation too)

  • #914160

    ZeesKite
    Participant

    Oomis, Thank You!!!

    You’re much too smart to get fooled.

  • #914161

    moi aussi
    Member

    Zeeskite, I thought you’re a suspect, how are you permitted to post here? Have they found you not guilty after all? Typical modus operandi (business as usual).

  • #914162

    ZeesKite
    Participant

    (let’s see if this goes through)

    moi aussi:

    I guess subtle, small ones go through, now.

    The real ones (my blood screaming out) get trashed each time.

    and Yes, there was never a shadow of doubt to high administration as to my innocence. Could not have been. Will not elaborate ??”?.

    and No, I don’t seek revenge ?”? (as per my occupation, in profile), I want closure. (I am human)

  • #914166

    SaysMe
    Member

    zk- good, i’m glad

  • #914167

    HaLeiVi
    Member

    WIY, see Chulin 19a, 5 lines from the top.

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