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1. torahbob
   Member

   Hello All,
   I am interested in learning Safrus (not as a business but for personal knowledge etc.). I come from a long line of sofrim and what to continue the tradition.
   Anyone know of any resources, including seforim and also where or from whom I can learn. I am willing to travel anywhere in the brooklyn/long island/manhattan area.
   Thanks/

   Posted 1 year ago #

2. m. keller
   Member

   hi, im practicing safrus. i reccomend what i did/am doing: learn "mishnas hasofer", "mishnas sofrim", "mishna berurah hilchos tefillin","likut sifray stam", and, most important, find some local sofrim to demonstrate some things and answer any questions you have. last, a helpful site is "ctc torah.org".
   if you ever want to be certified, the best place in USA or israel is the "vaad mishmeres stam"- 718 438 4980. before going to them, check with a sofer to make sure you're ready.

   hatzlacha,
   Mishael Keller

   Posted 1 year ago #

3. torahbob
   Member

   Thank you for your response. What about learning all the technical aspects, like writing the letter, cutting the kulmus, the klaf, ink etc? Do the seforim you list teach you the techniques also? Also, where do you get supplies?

   Posted 1 year ago #

4. RSRH
   Member

   torahbob: I am a sofer (not certified - I mostly write and illustrate non-STaM stuff like kesubbos, smichah certificates, parshas haketores, and other artistic work). It is of course important to learn the basic seforim, but it is equally important to find a good experienced sofer that is willing to teach you the technical points. In many ways, safrus is much like the skilled artisan trades of yesteryear - to become really proficient, you need to apprentice. Good techniques and the basic mechanics of how to do this kind of work well is passed from mouth to mouth, form teacher to student.

   Posted 1 year ago #

5. fabie
   Member

   To learn the technical, the simplest approach is learning from a sofer, some experienced ones do training, however, I don know of a few sofrim, who taught themself.

   BTW, I learned stam myself.

   Posted 1 year ago #

6. torahbob
   Member

   Thanks, how did you teach yourself? What did you need/use?

   Posted 1 year ago #

7. fabie
   Member

   I wasn't clear in my previous post. I learned stam from a professional sofer. I know of those who've taught themseves though.

   You will need a kulmus, ink, parchment, a blade for trimming the kulmus.

   Posted 1 year ago #

8. Chacham
   Joseph

   I learned recently and I am about to finish a megillah on time or purim i'yh. The halachos I used Mishnas Hasofer and Otzar Sta''m [3 vol.]. I think that Otzar Stam is much more clear, while Mishnas Hasofer discusses everything.
   To learn the umnos I learned from a sofer in lakewood who writes and taught me one and one. It is best to learn one and one then with a group especially for shapiras ha'osios. If youb are willing to come into lakewood I am sure my melamed will be happy to teach you.

   Posted 1 year ago #

9. MHY
   Member

   I saw some literature from someone who teaches courses in Safrus and Shechita a while ago. The approach seemed logical and comprehensive. I called up for information and was impressed by what I heard, though I haven't taken any courses so far.

   I found a website for him, it is http://sofrus.org/

   Posted 1 year ago #

10. jewish source
    Member

    you cannot learn by yourself you need a teacher and not everyone can teach

    Posted 1 year ago #

11. torahbob
    Member

    To be clear, I am not interested in teaching myself. I am trying to find someone in the new york metro area that can teach me.

    Posted 1 year ago #

12. YFRBachur
    Member

    I'm in middle of learning safrus from a very good rebbe R' Yisroel Landsman. He will come to you makom. But he just teaches the skills i.e. ksav, sirtut, making a kulmus. The halacha ayou have to learn on your own. He can be reached at 718-404-4249 or ask the mods for my email
    To get a ksav kabala you have to learn 1)Mishnas Sofrim (found in Mishna Berura Chelek Alef) 2) shulchan Aruch siman lamed bais and lamed vav w/ Biur Halacha 3)keses Hasofer- Found either in a sefer called Likut sifrei stam (aprox. $24 in ny) or with a perush Called Mishnas Hasofer Aprox $36 in ny

    Posted 1 year ago #

13. davidhasofer
    Member

    you are welcome to google me. I teach Hilchot Stam over the internet free.

    edited. Sorry, we don't allow posting contact information.

    Posted 5 months ago #

14. ItcheSrulik
    Resident College "Shaigetz"

    I'm currently learning safrus. Where can I buy supplies in Brooklyn? I especially want to buy those precut plastic tips for practicing.

    Posted 3 months ago #

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