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Why do you think the Hurricane Sandy came?

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  1. MediumThinker
    War does not determine who is right - only who is left

    I'll list a few
    1 Gay marriage
    2 Yidden using the internet for bad reasons
    3 Less people eating chulent on Shabbos
    4 To test us to go to minyan
    5 To water the aravos bushes
    6 Because their was a low pressure build up
    7 Hurricane? What Hurricane?
    8 Because my neighbor cheats on taxes and has a fancier house/car than me.
    9 So I can have 2 days off school

    Please add your own reasons. I believe it is more complex than 1 reason. Together, we can discover the ulltimate truth.

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  2. midwesterner
    Member

    If I had a dollar for every thread started in the last week blaming the hurricane on Gay marraige . . . !

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. coffee addict
    Once killed a Troll with his bare hands

    10

    Hashem wanted to

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. zahavasdad
    Member

    And when did you speak to Hashem that he told you his reasons?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. MediumThinker
    War does not determine who is right - only who is left

    11 Shidduch crisis
    12 the Reform
    13 Obama
    14 Romney
    15 George W. Bush
    16 The modern Orthodox lifestyle
    17 Sinas Chinam
    18 Ahavas Chinam
    19 Elmo

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. uneeq
    Ironically, redundant subtitles can be redundantly ironic.

    20 The illuminati
    21 God sneezed a bit too hard
    22 Noach felt like he was losing attention to Avrohom
    23 Mashiach's coming!
    24 It was a practice drill for Hurricane MegaFrankenZillaStorm
    25 Too much gashmius
    26 Because massive destruction is good for the economy (see broken window fallacy)
    27 The wind was trying to imitate Felix Baumgartner's speed

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. YehudahTzvi
    Descendant of Aminodov

    And don't forget... Los Angeles and San Francisco were spared and treated to 82 degrees of clear skies and sunshine because of our holiness and purity!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. JayMatt19
    Member

    As I once heard directly from R' Brevda (who should be zoche to a refua sheleyma) after the World Trade Center attack.

    "Davening is a vadai mitzva,
    Krias Shema is a mitzvas d'oraisa,
    Talmud Torah - Kinegged Kulam
    Understanding why Hakadosh Boruch Hu decided to do what he did in the USA, Sofek.
    Ein Sofek Motzei Middei Vadai"

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. MediumThinker
    War does not determine who is right - only who is left

    28 The Knights Templar
    29 Evil Zionist Entity
    30 Censored by the One World Government
    31 Lack of humaneness to chickens at kapporos
    32 Lack of humaneness to cows at kapporos
    33 Shefichas Domim
    34 Shaking women's hands
    35 Not enough Lashon Tov

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. YW Moderator-42
    Life, The Coffee Room, and Subtitles.

    36 The Age Gap
    37 Wasting Time in the CR
    38 Lashon Hara on YW
    39 Joseph

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. just my hapence
    a penny for your thoughts, minus some change

    Perhaps because not enough people gave money to Kupat Ha'ir...

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. uneeq
    Ironically, redundant subtitles can be redundantly ironic.

    While I don't claim to know the reason why things happen, perhaps we can look at what happened and where, and see what we (or even gentiles) did wrong there. So say for example if millions of computers were suddenly infected with a strong virus, I would assume we could or should take some mussar about how to properly use our computers.

    Similarly, one can draw a parallel between the place where pritzus at it's worst is on constant public display, and the place that always seems to get destroyed any time a major storm comes around. The Beach.

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  13. just my hapence
    a penny for your thoughts, minus some change

    42. Comedy Sci-fi novels.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. BaalHabooze
    On the rocks

    JayMatt19?? Is that you? Well, look who the wind blew in!
    ....hey! That's it!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  15. chofetzchaim
    Member

    From CCHF:
    What does a hurricane have to do with loshon hora?

    The Ben Yehoyada explains that hurricanes are created by loshon hora. The following is a short synopsis. See below for the original.

    The connection between hurricanes and the sanctity of speech can be seen in the pasuk in Amos (4:13) which says “Hashem creates mountains and storms to teach a person what he has spoken.”

    The posuk starts with Hashem creating mountains and ends with mentioning the speech of man.

    Why?

    Hashem created giant mountains whose sole purpose is to diminish the winds of His great storms. Without those mountains, chas v’shalom, when hurricanes strike they would totally destroy all buildings and houses. Instead Hashem first sends the winds to strike the mountains, which diminish their great strength, before “allowing” them to strike places where people live.

    But why, asks the Ben Yehoyada, is there a need for such great hurricane winds in the first place?

    He answers “Hurricanes are created by the aveira of improper speech, loshon hora.”

    The Ben Yehoyada teaches us that after witnessing a great hurricane, every person should learn great musar from it, to guard themselves from the sin of improper speech.

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  16. chasuvayid
    Member

    it is clearly a sign to make aliyah as Americans are getting to comfortable and thinking that queens and seagate are the new Jerusalem. Hashem is telling us to go back home as even our big houses by the beach are temporary and can be destroyed overnight

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  17. MediumThinker
    War does not determine who is right - only who is left

    44 Tap water in NYC
    45 Iphone 5
    46 Taivos mamon
    47 Legalized abortion
    48 Ban on Metziztah Bepeh
    49 Ban on above 16 oz. Sodas
    50 So we should move to Eretz Yisroel
    51 People not being nizhar in Borer
    52 Pritzus
    53 Lack of sechel
    54 The Neturei Karta

    Posted 1 year ago #
  18. yitayningwut
    I have no idea wut this screen name means. Do YOU know what this screen name means?

    The hurricane came because of all of the people who think and act differently than me.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  19. WIY
    Managed to post for 3 years without getting a subtitle

    chofetzchaim
    I dont know if the ben yehoyada meant only loshon hora because HE doesnt say the words loshon hora, I think it was a broader definition of negative speech, so it can be malbin pnei chaveiro, it can be putting down Torah concepts, it can be talking in shul....

    Posted 1 year ago #
  20. mexipal
    Member

    55) Designer clothing
    56) tight clothing
    57) Basketball on Shabbos
    58) texting
    59) quoting Apikursim such as Bertrand Russel
    60) sushi
    61) Yidden wasting money at starbucks instead of giving to tzedaka

    Posted 1 year ago #
  21. JayMatt19
    Member

    Ya, it is me. Came back for a cup of coffee :-)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  22. Whiteberry
    Member

    Al Jazeera reports a machlokes haposkim in the moslem world. One shitta holds that last week during their eid, they davened for the eveil infidels to suffer and their prayers resulted in sandy. The other opinions says it is the Israelis fault, they manipulated the weather to result in the storm, it was a practice run for what they have in store for the palestinians.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  23. tzaddiq
    Member

    some of these suggestions had me laughing out loud!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  24. BaalHabooze
    On the rocks

    Hey JayMatt19, perhaps you can be mehaneh us with eppis a verttel in the "CR nightly-dvar-torah" sticky thread? I miss reading your nice shticklech torah that you used to post. Why waste a good hurricane for nothing, afterall, it was all for you :)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  25. chaimjoe
    Member

    What causes hurricanes?

    Hurricanes are intense low pressure areas that form over warm ocean waters in the summer and early fall. Their source of energy is water vapor which is evaporated from the ocean surface.

    Water vapor is the "fuel" for the hurricanes because it releases the "latent heat of condensation" when it condenses to form clouds and rain, warming the surrounding air. (This heat energy was absorbed by the water vapor when it was evaporated from the warm ocean surface, cooling the ocean in the process.)

    Usually, the heat released in this way in tropical thunderstorms is carried away by wind shear, which blows the top off the thunderstorms. But when there is little wind shear, this heat can build up, causing low pressure to form. The low pressure causes wind to begin to spiral inward toward the center of the low.

    These winds help to evaporate even more water vapor from the ocean, spiraling inward toward the center, feeding more showers and thunderstorms, and warming the upper atmosphere still more. The showers and thunderstorms where all of this energy is released are usually organized into bands (sometimes called "rainbands" or "feeder bands"), as well as into an "eyewall" encircling the center of the storm. The eyewall is where the strongest winds occur, which encircle the warmest air, in the eye of the hurricane. This warmth in the eye is produced by sinking air, which sinks in response to rising air in the thunderstorms. The winds diminish rapidly moving from the eyewall to the inside of the relatively cloud-free eye, where calm winds can exist.

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  26. BigGolem
    Member

    chaimjoe: Shh. Science not allowed here.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  27. mexipal
    Member

    62)Chups
    63)The Boro Park Eruv
    64)The 11 am minyan at Shomer Shabbos
    65)Davening Mincha after Chatzos HAlayla
    66)Bobby pins
    67)Tuna Bygels
    68)Women driving cars
    69)YU
    70)people not speaking enough Yiddish
    71)smoking
    72)Kiddush clubs
    73)shaving
    74)Kishuf

    Posted 1 year ago #
  28. dhl144
    Member

    Just my happence: lol that was a funny post!! whether u were joking or not thank you for a good laugh!

    HASHEM is in control and the world is going to have to learn that (I am part of the world please don't think I am excluding myself just answering aloud) HASHEM wants us all to realize that we are not in control...HASHEM runs this world and all that goes on is in His hands...lets try to eternalize this message and plan our days thinking and realizing that it is in HASHEMS hands whether are plans will be carried out!So that we don't show HASHEM that we think we're in control so we'll need another wakeup call

    Posted 1 year ago #
  29. just my hapence
    a penny for your thoughts, minus some change

    dhl144 - what, you thought I was serious?! Glad someone got the joke...

    Posted 1 year ago #
  30. zahavasdad
    Member

    Brothers fighting so hard over an inheritance that they take they eskew Beis Din and go to probate court

    Posted 1 year ago #
  31. ZeesKite
    Aquilone Dolce

    I'd rather not write it because people would assume I'm either a child or insane. Or both...וניתנה לשוטים ולתינוקות

    Posted 1 year ago #
  32. Zdad,

    Do you really think it is because of an individual case? Or would it be more likely because of huge groups who think Torah is secondary?

    Since you are such a tzadik, why would you have been impacted by the two brothers in YU who arguing in court?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  33. WolfishMusings
    The Wolf

    Hurricane Sandy came because HKBH chose to manipulate atmospheric and oceanic conditions, causing the confluence of weather events which led to Hurricane Sandy making landfall in New Jersey.

    Beyond that, all is speculation.

    The Wolf

    Posted 1 year ago #
  34. apushatayid
    Member

    I dont remember who said it after 9/11, but whoever it was, what he said still applies.

    Tefillah, Krias Shma, Talmud Tora, Tzedaka, Chessed etc.., all a vaday dioraisa. Why events happened, are pure speculation and a safek at best. Ain safek motzi miday vaday. Deal with the vadays and leave the sefaikos.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  35. Health
    Member

    chasuvayid -"it is clearly a sign to make aliyah as Americans are getting to comfortable and thinking that queens and seagate are the new Jerusalem."

    While you're right about Jews living in Golus in luxury, there's one thing you forgot. EY is also Golus and you shouldn't live in luxury there also. And yet every ad I see for Diras in EY state -eg. "Luxury Apts. for Sale in the Heart of Yerushalyim".
    So about practicing what you preach? There are people living in Moisros everywhere, even in EY.

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  36. uneeq
    Ironically, redundant subtitles can be redundantly ironic.

    just my hapence: I think many of us got that reference right away. Funny though.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  37. dhl144
    Member

    Just_Happence- I forgot to tell u I was talking about the first reason u gave that I found very very funny about not giving money to Kupot Hair.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  38. just my hapence
    a penny for your thoughts, minus some change

    dhl144 - Thanks! I gave money to Kupat Hair once, it worked so well I needed to go the barber 3 times in the next month... ;-p.

    77 - either Sunset Strip or Two Little Crutches, take your pick...

    Posted 1 year ago #
  39. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; eccentric; somewhere between mean and average; sometimes only a bit over the top; arbitrarily engaged in cynicism.

    To destroy the anti semitic River Cafe. See their website, they are closed.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  40. Toi
    beware the cleats

    because of all the chumras

    Posted 1 year ago #
  41. As long as the question and the comments here are in jest, it's all fine. However, once they get serious, I get upset. To make statements about what HKB"H intended with any world event is not just conceited, but borders on kefira. If anyone around has a hefty dose of Ruach Hakodesh, I might accept, but I highly doubt that anyone with such a spirit would be either reading or commenting on YWN.

    I also read the statement from the Ben Yehoyodoh (by the Ben Ish Chai). However, reread his statement. It is stated in generalities, not specifics.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  42. farrocks
    Joseph

    It is stated in generalities, not specifics.

    TLIK: How are you differentiating "generalities" from "specifics"? Please provide an example of each.

    When a godol hador states that such-and-such tragedy is a result of such-and-such aveira, is the godol speaking in generalities or in specifics?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  43. dhl144
    Member

    Just_Happence-took me a few min to get that one...wayyy tooo corny!!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  44. marbehshalom
    Member

    internet

    Posted 1 year ago #
  45. just my hapence
    a penny for your thoughts, minus some change

    dhl144 - nothing wrong with corny!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  46. Unless somone possesses Ruach Hakodesh, they have no right to tell us what caused the Holocaust, Hurricane Sandy, or any other disaster. They are free to instruct Klal Yisroel or any individual with guidance on what to be mesaken. The Ben Ish Chai spoke in general, as is found in Shas many times (for example in Pirkei Avos (5:10)) that certain types of tragedies happen as punishment for certain categories of aveiros. However, cheshbonos for specific events are complex beyond the comprehension of mortal humanity. Anyone who tells me the precise cause for Sandy is either a kofer, a ball gaava, or a plain idiot.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  47. WIY
    Managed to post for 3 years without getting a subtitle

    Our Gedolim of previous generations have already told us why every type of tragedy occurs. Storms and floods dont happen necessarily for the same reasons as sickness or plagues or earthquakes....
    Todays gedolim are only saying that the things found in those sefarim apply to us today because we are doing those aveiros.

    Its time to start taking our Gedolim seriously and to stop being stubborn and arrogant. It can get worse and it will if we dont do Teshuva. (I heard from Gedolim that it will get much worse if we dont get the message) As bad as this was Baruch Hashem people are alive and its just money that can be recovered.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  48. Health
    Member

    The little I know -"Unless somone possesses Ruach Hakodesh, they have no right to tell us what caused the Holocaust, Hurricane Sandy, or any other disaster. They are free to instruct Klal Yisroel or any individual with guidance on what to be mesaken. The Ben Ish Chai spoke in general, as is found in Shas many times (for example in Pirkei Avos (5:10)) that certain types of tragedies happen as punishment for certain categories of aveiros. However, cheshbonos for specific events are complex beyond the comprehension of mortal humanity. Anyone who tells me the precise cause for Sandy is either a kofer, a ball gaava, or a plain idiot."

    While your post is accurate, myself and others who have given reasons are saying that it's a good possibility, not that we know 100%. So the guidance me and others are giving to be Mesaken is that No Frum Jew should vote for any candidate who supports or has voted for the Toeiva agenda! To put your head in the sand and not trying to look at some possibilities over others is missing the message that Hashem sent. The Gedolim did this with the Holocaust, with many blaming the Reform movement and lack of Shmiras Shabbos. Some blamed the Zionist movement. So there are some things that have to be corrected first, even though we don't know 100% that these were the cause(s).

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  49. WolfishMusings
    The Wolf

    Anyone who tells me the precise cause for Sandy is either a kofer, a ball gaava, or a plain idiot.

    I gave a cause, above. To wit:

    Hurricane Sandy came because HKBH chose to manipulate atmospheric and oceanic conditions, causing the confluence of weather events which led to Hurricane Sandy making landfall in New Jersey.

    To which category do I belong? Am I a kofer, a ba'al ga'avah or an idiot?

    The Wolf

    Posted 1 year ago #
  50. hudi
    Member

    Whiteberry and Popa- LOL LOL

    Posted 1 year ago #

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