I think most people here do not mean to be downplaying the need for either hishtadlus or teshuvah. They just feel that one is being downplayed when only the other one is mentioned, so they quickly point out how important _________ is. Then the same thing happens on the other side of the aisle. And round and round we go.
Sam2:
“YYBC: Of course Hashem isn’t involved.”
Umm… typo?