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Chaim87
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the truth is both though. There were definitely zionists out there to shamd and who hated the frum. Ben Gurion YMS and his team openly stated so. We know they kidnapped from children from birth and sent them to frei kibbutizm. Th3e chazon ish z’l own assistant use to sneak in to try to get them back. We all know the fiaah yossela story where the govt spend resources that could have been used to hunt down Mengeles YMS , but instead they went and used it to hunt down Yossela hiddne by rus Blau and staying by a satmara in willamsburg just to shmad him. On the other hand there are good zionsists such as Began and others who were perhaps semi or not frum but not out to get the charedim to be not frum. Fast foward to today and almost no zionists is out to make charedim not frum anymore. Their goal is that they fight and work vs just learning. Maybe they are out to make them 5-towns bal habatim vs chasidsiha yidden or BMG yungerlit