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good question.
No one is arguing the reality that the zionist will use violence (at least as much as any other state) to enforce their rule. So, I presume you are asking about the Torah obligation to follow laws of the land (“dinei d’malchusei dinei”).
there are two responses:
1) since the government claims itself to be fraudulently jewish, it also loses it’s legitimacy (on many levels) so poskim have easily declared that there is no “dinei d’malchusei dinei” for the zionist state.
2) There is no “dinei d’malchusei dinei” regarding things that are themselves or might lead to doing things that are against out Torah obligation. The ideology and actions of the state are actions of kefira in (at least) the foundational belief of G-d Himself being the only One to get us out of galus, and as such are not biding on Jews.
The above points are made regularly by poskim dealing with real world questions, but I am providing a summary for the sake of moving the conversation along despite my not having specific sources to point to. If you would like such sources, let me know.
Also, we have seen this regularly in Jewish history, even when there is “dinei d’malchusei dinei”, where drafts were evaded because they threatened our Yidishkeit.