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Is it something that is specifically not litvish? Can someone who grew up Litvish put on a gartel without it being disrespectful to his minhag? Why do some chasidim wear thick gartels and others thinner ones?
Garters separate the head from the lower part of the body, and some have thicker heads thsn others …. anyway, a tie fulfills the minimum requirement.
A bigger question is – if you have zechus to belong to a menorah focused on intellectual achievements – why do you suddenly care about adding a string around your waist? You don’t feel frum enough because someone else doing something you don’t? Maybe look up some minhagim of say Rav Salanter or Alter from Slobodka, I am sure you’ll find some middos you can still work on. But maybe a belt is an easier path to feeling frum.
You can do whatever you _want_ just matters how much you care about what other people think of you
“Garters separate the head from the lower part of the body, and some have thicker heads thsn others …. anyway, a tie fulfills the minimum requirement.“
Aaq,
Does that mean the same holds true for thicker ties?
Gartels aren’t a specifically Chasidish thing. Litvish Yeshivos like, for example, Yeshiva Rabbeinu Chaim Berlin also wear Gartels.
I always heard the elastic waistband on underwear took the place of a gartel & the waistband accomplishes the exact same thing.
“Garters separate the head from the lower part of the body….”
AAQ: Huh?? Garters are part of varbeshe lvush that are used to hold up stuff we don’t need to discuss here. In any event, they have nothing to do with the chassideshe lvush which is what the OP was about
Gartel is not a chassidus thing.
It originates from early mesachtes shaboss and is brought jn the reshonim and poskim.
Some later poksem clarify that it really depends if the custom is to wear the gartel or belt for better ocassions, as was done in those days. Nowdays, its not done.
Opinion: The concept of a gartel is a special garment for tefillah. Shulchan Aruch 98:4 וראוי שיהיו לו מלבושים נאים מיוחדים לתפלה כמו בגדי כהונה
(The “separation” concept is fulfilled with today’s pants.) A gartel belongs and looks nice with a long jacket to help close the jacket – like a typical kittel or long raincoat has. But it makes no sense to wear with a short jacket. It’s not a “nice garment” when worn with a short jacket.Those that wear the gartel with the short jacket is because they are keeping the mesorah of their parents, etc. But to start it now…?
Here’s some other ideas to improve davening: 1) come on time 2) look in the siddur 3) buy and bring your own siddur 4) have a minyan kavuah 5) buy and bring your own table shtender. 5) sometimes less shuckeling helps!
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