somejew, you did not post any such source. It was said about one person. He never said the word Zionist. In fact, it doesn’t even say if it was said in jest or not – and it doesn’t say if he led the benching or not. If he really paskened that way, it would have been written in one of his seforim. Many poskim have said that people shouldn’t listen to what was given as a psak to someone else – the only piskei halacha meant for the public are the ones written as a teshuva meant for the public, or in a sefer.
As for the small one’s posts, he just keeps on repeating himself. It won’t make anyone agree with him. Yes, many early Zionists did drive people away from Judaism. But that doesn’t mean that Zionism as a whole is bad. Those people were bad. There were also many Zionists who brought people closer to the Torah. Yes, there was access to the kotel long before Israel was founded. But Jewish immigration was not allowed except for in very small numbers. The learning that exists today in Israel would not exist without the state.
You really need to differentiate between secular Zionism and religious Zionism.
Small one, now is where you quote a few people who opposed Zionism in any form, then go on about shmad and how terrible Israel is. Actually, now you don’t have to write it – I just did it for you.
