All you guys are finished being מתקן yourselves? Looked at a Jewish calendar lately? Nothing better to do? 870 posts accomplishing what exactly?
1. No one here will succeed in convincing anyone of anything, no matter what. This thread has long since disintegrated into a rage-room, nothing more.
2. The guy from the קמצא/בר קמצא story was probably just as sure as you all are that he was right… He wasn’t…
3. I’m assuming everyone here is mentally healthy (more or less) and Orthodox Jewish (more or less).
4. So what are you all trying to accomplish?