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To Sechel
You made a number of points I’ll try to address all of them
1. You state that what I said about Rav Yochanan is completely wrong. I spoke to Rabbi Fishelis and he said that your Pshat is nonsense. Checkmate
2. You argue that I have no Gemara that contradicts the Rebbe and so I can’t call him a Kofer. Let’s put aside 1 in 300000 but we have the statement of the SMAG cited by yankel berel. Do you think some two bit engineer can argue on one of the greatest Rishonim? Checkmate
3. You state that Rabbi Breitowiiz teaches the Rebbe’s Torah. Why not? The Rebbe was a super genius and he had some wonderful videos in Torah particularly Rashi. Yoshka was also great in Torah. Checkmate again
To none2.0
Your post is interesting. Can you give a concrete example? Many Shluchim know how to use the Chabad brand to get rich. Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein was making about 150 million a year from Christians. He gave most of the money to Chabad. One Rabbi in my neighborhood was getting a million a year. I don’t know if he’s still getting it now that Eckstein is dead. Eckstein was taking money from one set of Christians and giving it to another.
To the group
The other day I noted that the central Nevuah of their Kofer is that we are in the last generation of Golus and the first generation of Geulah. The problem is that the Rebbe made that statement more than 35 years ago and a generation is between 20 and 30 years. Therefore the Nevuah is refuted. So Sechel comes back and says that according to Maharal a generation can be 70 years and so we have to wait 35 more years to call the Kofer a Novi sheker. A Nevuah is clear cut, but not according to Chabad. When the Rebbe was alive no one considered the possibility of Mashiach coming from the dead, but when he died they changed their mind. Checkmate
“coffee, thanks, but I am still reaching for the navi. There are a lot of features of tlamid chacham mentioned in the gemora that I view as a criteria“
Aaq,
I never said you were a TALMID chachacham, i said you are a CHACHAM which anyone can be (חכמה בגוים תאמין) the saying חכם עינו בראשו doesn’t only apply to Torah
@ Sechel
Are you going to answer my question?
Did the last Lubavicher Rebbe claim, as a Halachic Navi, to be speaking in the name of Hashem?
Do you believe that the last Lubavicher Rebbe, was a Navi, in the full, Halachic sense of that word?
Also, as an aside
I saw you wrote that Rabbi Brietawitz teaches the last Lubavicher Rebbe’s Torah. I have heard a number of his shiurim and have not heard this. Can you specify what shiur(I’m) you are referring to?
To the group
I normally try no to repeat a point in a second post but I’ll make an exception this time. As I stated above the mantra that “this is the last generation of Golus and the first generation of Geulah” is central to Chabad theology. As noted 35 years have passed since the liar made his prediction and it didn’t come true and so that ends any further Novi BS. But not so fast, now Sechel proposes that the Rebbe didn’t mean the standard generation. Right maybe he was talking about a generation in the time of Adam Harishon which was approximately 200 years. This reminds me of a story. I had a friend growing up who was a genius. He became a physicist. Many years ago I called him up to see if he’s observant(he’s a professor at NYU). So I asked him if he believed in G-d. He answered, “I depends what you mean by God My god is big bang.” He was serious and he’s a very nice person. Sechel and the other Lubavich liars make up anything to cover up Schneerson’s Kefirah
To non-political
I love your straightforward approach. Sechel is a liar as well as a Kofer and he won’t answer any question that’s posed to him.unless he can think of some lie to push people off. Chabad’s Kefirah is so easily provable. Today I heard that lowlife YY Jacobson spouting the Rebbe’s garbage that every single Jew will be redeemed by Moshiach. Totally against the Gemara. You’re doing a great job. Keep putting the pressure on Sechel. He’ll fold.
coffee> I never said you were a TALMID chachacham, i said you are a CHACHAM which anyone can be (חכמה בגוים תאמין) the saying חכם עינו בראשו doesn’t only apply to Torah
your definition of the chacham seems OK, but your definition of the “talmid” seems off. T’Ch is a lower madregah and many true T’Chim call themselves mostly T’Ch as if they did not finish learning.
I don’t recall the source, but I think there is an explicit comparison – T’Ch can answer shailohs on the masechet he is currently learning, while Ch’ can answer anywhere in the Torah.
Maybe you are confused because, as you quote, chacham often refers to general knowledge and sciences, while t’Ch often is referred with ability to answer shailohs and also proper behavior (not walking on your own at night, dressing up properly). Maybe T’Ch starts with memorizing one mashechet at a time (see above), while Chacham has thinking capabilities that include as well general knowledge.
Anyway, I modestly claimed only naviyut, so none of these categories apply to me. And the reason I did it – to divert this ugly stream of mutual accusations … BTW, after I examined myself before I modestly concluded that I am not a T’Ch, I found I have something in common with Alter Rebbe!
As he said – he was choosing between going to Vilna Gaon and Maggid of Mezirich: I knew something about learning torah but I knew NOTHING about davening. So, I am 50% there like alter Rebbe! Of course, after Alter Rebbe learned something about davening, he tried to see Gaon – but he did not have a prayer …@non political 1) there is a psak din signed by many rabbamim including non chabad rabbamim, that the rebbe is a navi. I didn’t learn the whole sugya beiyun to paskin myself
2) listen to the meaningful people podcast recently on the rebbe where he discusses it
@qwerty tell rabbi fishelis he should learn klolai has has in yad Malachi, maybe he’s a kofer. Checkmate
Contradicting a rishon is not kefira. See hakdama harambam. Besides you never gave a good answer to 1) igeres taiman -also a rishon 2) the many we find had RUACH HAKODESH after the gemara says it was נסתלק
3) please provide the source – cuz why should I believe you after you keep making things up.
Checkmate
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