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To Sechel
You made a number of points I’ll try to address all of them
1. You state that what I said about Rav Yochanan is completely wrong. I spoke to Rabbi Fishelis and he said that your Pshat is nonsense. Checkmate
2. You argue that I have no Gemara that contradicts the Rebbe and so I can’t call him a Kofer. Let’s put aside 1 in 300000 but we have the statement of the SMAG cited by yankel berel. Do you think some two bit engineer can argue on one of the greatest Rishonim? Checkmate
3. You state that Rabbi Breitowiiz teaches the Rebbe’s Torah. Why not? The Rebbe was a super genius and he had some wonderful videos in Torah particularly Rashi. Yoshka was also great in Torah. Checkmate again
To none2.0
Your post is interesting. Can you give a concrete example? Many Shluchim know how to use the Chabad brand to get rich. Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein was making about 150 million a year from Christians. He gave most of the money to Chabad. One Rabbi in my neighborhood was getting a million a year. I don’t know if he’s still getting it now that Eckstein is dead. Eckstein was taking money from one set of Christians and giving it to another.
To the group
The other day I noted that the central Nevuah of their Kofer is that we are in the last generation of Golus and the first generation of Geulah. The problem is that the Rebbe made that statement more than 35 years ago and a generation is between 20 and 30 years. Therefore the Nevuah is refuted. So Sechel comes back and says that according to Maharal a generation can be 70 years and so we have to wait 35 more years to call the Kofer a Novi sheker. A Nevuah is clear cut, but not according to Chabad. When the Rebbe was alive no one considered the possibility of Mashiach coming from the dead, but when he died they changed their mind. Checkmate
“coffee, thanks, but I am still reaching for the navi. There are a lot of features of tlamid chacham mentioned in the gemora that I view as a criteria“
Aaq,
I never said you were a TALMID chachacham, i said you are a CHACHAM which anyone can be (חכמה בגוים תאמין) the saying חכם עינו בראשו doesn’t only apply to Torah
@ Sechel
Are you going to answer my question?
Did the last Lubavicher Rebbe claim, as a Halachic Navi, to be speaking in the name of Hashem?
Do you believe that the last Lubavicher Rebbe, was a Navi, in the full, Halachic sense of that word?
Also, as an aside
I saw you wrote that Rabbi Brietawitz teaches the last Lubavicher Rebbe’s Torah. I have heard a number of his shiurim and have not heard this. Can you specify what shiur(I’m) you are referring to?
To the group
I normally try no to repeat a point in a second post but I’ll make an exception this time. As I stated above the mantra that “this is the last generation of Golus and the first generation of Geulah” is central to Chabad theology. As noted 35 years have passed since the liar made his prediction and it didn’t come true and so that ends any further Novi BS. But not so fast, now Sechel proposes that the Rebbe didn’t mean the standard generation. Right maybe he was talking about a generation in the time of Adam Harishon which was approximately 200 years. This reminds me of a story. I had a friend growing up who was a genius. He became a physicist. Many years ago I called him up to see if he’s observant(he’s a professor at NYU). So I asked him if he believed in G-d. He answered, “I depends what you mean by God My god is big bang.” He was serious and he’s a very nice person. Sechel and the other Lubavich liars make up anything to cover up Schneerson’s Kefirah
To non-political
I love your straightforward approach. Sechel is a liar as well as a Kofer and he won’t answer any question that’s posed to him.unless he can think of some lie to push people off. Chabad’s Kefirah is so easily provable. Today I heard that lowlife YY Jacobson spouting the Rebbe’s garbage that every single Jew will be redeemed by Moshiach. Totally against the Gemara. You’re doing a great job. Keep putting the pressure on Sechel. He’ll fold.
coffee> I never said you were a TALMID chachacham, i said you are a CHACHAM which anyone can be (חכמה בגוים תאמין) the saying חכם עינו בראשו doesn’t only apply to Torah
your definition of the chacham seems OK, but your definition of the “talmid” seems off. T’Ch is a lower madregah and many true T’Chim call themselves mostly T’Ch as if they did not finish learning.
I don’t recall the source, but I think there is an explicit comparison – T’Ch can answer shailohs on the masechet he is currently learning, while Ch’ can answer anywhere in the Torah.
Maybe you are confused because, as you quote, chacham often refers to general knowledge and sciences, while t’Ch often is referred with ability to answer shailohs and also proper behavior (not walking on your own at night, dressing up properly). Maybe T’Ch starts with memorizing one mashechet at a time (see above), while Chacham has thinking capabilities that include as well general knowledge.
Anyway, I modestly claimed only naviyut, so none of these categories apply to me. And the reason I did it – to divert this ugly stream of mutual accusations … BTW, after I examined myself before I modestly concluded that I am not a T’Ch, I found I have something in common with Alter Rebbe!
As he said – he was choosing between going to Vilna Gaon and Maggid of Mezirich: I knew something about learning torah but I knew NOTHING about davening. So, I am 50% there like alter Rebbe! Of course, after Alter Rebbe learned something about davening, he tried to see Gaon – but he did not have a prayer …@non political 1) there is a psak din signed by many rabbamim including non chabad rabbamim, that the rebbe is a navi. I didn’t learn the whole sugya beiyun to paskin myself
2) listen to the meaningful people podcast recently on the rebbe where he discusses it
@qwerty tell rabbi fishelis he should learn klolai has has in yad Malachi, maybe he’s a kofer. Checkmate
Contradicting a rishon is not kefira. See hakdama harambam. Besides you never gave a good answer to 1) igeres taiman -also a rishon 2) the many we find had RUACH HAKODESH after the gemara says it was נסתלק
3) please provide the source – cuz why should I believe you after you keep making things up.
CheckmateTo Sechel
1. Name a non-Chabad Rabbi who signed the Psak that the Rebbe was a Novi. 2. An engineer who contradicts a Rishon may not be a Kofer but he’s definitely a psychotic. Thank you for confirming what Rav Shach said about Schneerson.. 3. Just a question, ,”Why do you care if I call the Rebbe what he is he a Kofer? I wouldn’t care if you called Rav Moshe a name. The reason you can’t take it is because you know I’m right. BTW what’s your point about Rambam? Is it that he predicted that Nevuah will return 800 years ago? As I said his prediction didn’t come true. Why is that a problem? Rabbi Akiva was our greatest Tanna and he was wrong about Bar Kochba. Great people make mistakes because they’re human. Only two people were never wrong and they’re both dead Jewish gods and both Kofrim. One of them was Jesus. Can you guess the other one?
To non-political
As I said above I like your approach but let me share something about Sechel’s state of “mind.” About 2 years ago he challenged me as follows because I said I’m a Lower East Sider, “In 1962 the Rebbe announced that he was god. Rav Moshe was a Gadol at the time and he didn’t protest so this means he accepted the Rebbe as his god.” Sechel’s an absolute idolater.and so no logical arguments make any impression on him.
To Sechel
There are dozens, maybe hundreds of Rabbis who give Dad Yomis on line. I challenge you to name one Rabbi who agrees with your Rabbi Yochanan Pshat on the Gemara in Cheilek. Since no such Rabbi exists I win. The Rebbe is a Kofer and for you it’s checkmate. How dare you call Rabbi Fishelis a Kofer. He’s Rav Dovid Feinstein’s son-in-law you psychotic moron. Checkmate again. It’s so much fun dealing with you. You do more to prove how sick all Lubavitchers are.
More about nevuah: see דרך מצותיך from the צמח צדק:
ואנחנו נבאר זה ע”פ הפנים העמוקים שלימדו מיסוד הבעש”ט והה”מ נ”ע אשר אליו נגלו האחרים כידוע
Seems like the baal shem tov and the magid had nevuahIn פרקי גילוים (printed In שו”ת מן השמים מהדורת קוק) he says that even though the gemara says משמתו הנביאים האחרונים .. נסתלקה רוח הקודש, he brings many times where we see רוח הקודש by חכמי התלמוד, and it means that ITS NOT COMMON like it was then and brings an example that the gemara says בטלה זכוכית לבנה, and we find that it existed later
He goes on a whole אריכות, see there.@ Sechel
Signed Psak Dins are a-dime-a-dozen today.
Also, what sugya? My questions where:
1) To your knowledge, did the last Lubavicher Rebbe declare that he was speaking as a Prophet in the name of Hashem?
2) Do you believe that the last Lubavicher Rebbe was a Prophet (in the full Halachic sense of the word)?
These are simple yes or no questions
@ Sechel
You wrote that Rabbi Brietawitz teaches the last Lubavicher Rebbe’s Torah. Can you please specify what shiur(im) you are referring to?
Regarding the whole Chabbad is Kfira / A”Z thing.
There is a case that has been made that the Gedolim of the previous generation where not aware of certain statements made by the last Lubavicher Rebbe and had they been aware they would have certainly considered Chabbad Kfira / A”Z. The thing is that, as of today, all the Rebbeim are aware of the controversial statements. Still, every major Kashrus organization relies on Chabbad mashgichim (even Moshichist ones). Even Rav Aaron Feldman, who holds not to rely on them, is clear it is not because we have to be Choshed them as being Ovdei A”Z.
That being said, believing in the tooth fairy isn’t Kfira / A”Z either. Now if someone insists of believing in the tooth fairy that is their business, and nobody who values there time should try to argue with them. On the other hand, if someone (or many someones) are engaged in a mass media campaign to pass off belief in the tooth fairy as normative Jewish belief and leaving teeth under ones pillow as normative Jewish practice this should rightly be fought against.
1) there is a psak din signed by many rabbamim including non chabad rabbamim, that the rebbe is a navi. I didn’t learn the whole sugya beiyun to paskin myself
latest claim by sechel
—Sechel is 6 months wrong here
we are in chodesh av , not in Adargood purim joke – non habad rabanim ????
names and positions please ….
.You can search Google פסק דין שהרבי הוא נביא. One example is Rabbi Yotzchok Hershkowitz – klosenberg dayan in boro park. Very known and respected.
@qwerty how about check artscroll gemara Sanhedrin 111a on rava which brings the maharal and the yaavatz that say what rava is referring to is that the people who won’t be redeemed are the people who passed away in previous generations, and will come back by techiyas hamasim.
Tell rabbi fishelis he’s an amazing haaretz (or you’re just leing that he told you such nonsense)To yankel berel and non-political
Far be it frome to tell you what to do but at this point I think it makes sense to ignore the Last of the Mohicans ie Sechel. He has nothing to add to the discussion. He’s an inveterate liar like the Rebbe. Dr. Berger spent much time in his book discussing the refusal of Gedolim to do anything about Chabad. It’s not my place to question them, but that doesn’t mean that I’m blind to Chabad’s excesses. Two of their biggest Rabbis Manis Friedman and YY Jacobson are spreading the Rebbe’s mantra that there are no consequences for those who sin
Friedman says it openly while Jacobson hides this Kefirah by mixing in Kabbalah. Ramchal wrote that every moment of our lives we’re engaged in a life and death struggle with the Yetzer hora. Of course Pirkei Avos teaches essentially the same thing. This is Judaism 1.0. but Chabad now rejects this. Rabbi Miller said that if you continue speaking the truth eventually even your enemies will quote you.To the group
Looks like Sechel is correct. There is a Psak Din with numerous signatories so I’ll assume the Rabbi he mentioned is there. Here’s the problem. The year is תשנה 0 which is thirty years ago. The Psak declared that the Rebbe is not only a Novi but that he’s also Moshiach. But wait there’s more. The Psak declared that the Rebbe is alive. So Sechel is now contradicting himself because he said that no Lubavicher believes the Rebbe has already become Moshiach. Checkmate.
All you guys are finished being מתקן yourselves? Looked at a Jewish calendar lately? Nothing better to do? 870 posts accomplishing what exactly?
1. No one here will succeed in convincing anyone of anything, no matter what. This thread has long since disintegrated into a rage-room, nothing more.
2. The guy from the קמצא/בר קמצא story was probably just as sure as you all are that he was right… He wasn’t…
3. I’m assuming everyone here is mentally healthy (more or less) and Orthodox Jewish (more or less).
4. So what are you all trying to accomplish?
Qwerty, if you need a punching bag, so rage-post me (like you did for a few days 700 comments ago…), not the Lubavitcher Rebbe. I am definitely less of an Ehrlicher Yid than he was… But better for everyone to just shut up and move on with something more meaningful and productive, especially ערב תשעה באב.
I just watched Manis Friedman’s video and qwerty (Rav aharon Feldman) completely distorted it.
He says “there’s not a Jew in the world who deserves punishment” that does not mean there is no שכר עונשP.s.
I even wonder who has more faith: the heretic who cannot accept the existence of G‑d after the Holocaust, or the believer who attributes such horrors to G‑d’s appetite for punishment. The “heretic” believes that if there is a G‑d, He must be compassionate—and he cannot square the Holocaust with that belief; the “believer,” on the other hand, has lost his faith in compassion . . . The alternative may or may not be heresy, but the “retribution for sins” approach is an unbearable affront to the holy Jewish nation and their G‑d.To Yaakov Yosef A
You’re such a nice guy. I wrote my weekly Dvar Torah this week on the subject of rebuking other Jews. Thousands of people read me including some very prominent Rabbis. So let me share the salient points. 1. Don’t give Mussar to people who won’t listen to you, and I don’t have any interest in what a nasty jerk like you has to say. 2. Second don’t give Mussar unless you like the person you’re trying to reach. I’m sure you hate my guts as much as I hate you. 3. Don’t give Mussar unless you’ve made changes in yourself. Clearly you’re way to arrogant to ever work on yourself. If you want more of this keep writing. I’ve got plenty more in my arsenal. As for your point that I and the other Chabad critics aren’t accomplishing anything. Well for one thing I drove you out of the thread. But seriously all we want to accomplish is to expose the truth about Chabad and it’s mission accomplished. Sechel is wobbling around but the more that idiot writes the more he demonstrates that Chabad is an alien religion. Checkmate dude.
qwerty613 – I don’t hate you. In fact, I don’t know you, and you don’t know me… I left this thread because already a month ago I saw it wasn’t going anywhere. I was just surprised to see it running for so long, with so many comments.
To quote you:
So let me share the salient points.
1. Don’t give Mussar to people who won’t listen to you, and I don’t have any interest in what a nasty jerk like you has to say.
(The people you disagree with probably don’t have any interest in what a pleasant and friendly fellow like you has to say.)
2. Second don’t give Mussar unless you like the person you’re trying to reach. I’m sure you hate my guts as much as I hate you.
(You just admitted that you aren’t qualified to give Mussar. So don’t do it. How do you hate someone you don’t even know?)
3. Don’t give Mussar unless you’ve made changes in yourself. Clearly you’re way too arrogant to ever work on yourself.
(You feel free to criticize others, including the Lubavitcher Rebbe, because you are so… humble? I guess you must have made really big changes in yourself before you got to be so great.)
If you want more of this keep writing. I’ve got plenty more in my arsenal.
(I don’t care. I actually invited you to do so. Better you should use me as a punching bag than ח״ו to do so with the Lubavitcher Rebbe זצ״ל. If you would get professional help, it would be better and more effective. Why should it make any difference in my life what a nameless and faceless (and apparently mentally ill) troll rants and raves?)
Are you like this in real life, or is this just your ‘rage room’? Seriously, copy and paste all 875 comments to an email, send it anonymously to the mental health professional of your choice, without identifying which participant you are, and ask him if ‘qwerty613’ is in need of therapy or other intervention.
“He says “there’s not a Jew in the world who deserves punishment” that does not mean there is no שכר עונש”
So if a person gets “punished” he’s telling Hashem that the person doesn’t deserve it? He knows better than Hashem?
@qwerty “thousands of people read me including some very prominent rabbis”
We see clearly here that when you point at someone else he’s psychotic, you’re really looking in the mirror at yourself.@ Sechel
“I just watched Manis Friedman’s video and qwerty (Rav aharon Feldman) completely distorted it.”
Rav Ahron Feldman is an ish emes. He doesn’t distort things. That’s some chutzpa for you to speak that way about one of the Gedolei Yisroel.
“He says “there’s not a Jew in the world who deserves punishment” that does not mean there is no שכר עונש”
Really? Oh, you mean that there is schar and onesh but there is no Jew today who commits any willful transgressions. Every transgression by every individual is a ones or shogeg? Thank you for clearing that up. But, it’s Rav Aaron Feldman who is guilty of distortion??
“I even wonder who has more faith: the heretic who cannot accept the existence of G‑d after the Holocaust, or the believer who attributes such horrors to G‑d’s appetite for punishment.”
This is what is known as a fools choice. How about option “C” None of the above
“the “retribution for sins” approach is an unbearable affront to the holy Jewish nation and their G‑d.”
You may want to re-read the Asereh Dibros.
@ Sechel
Will you answer the 3 questions I asked you?
sechel83 – As they say here חבל על הזמן. You aren’t going to convince Mr. Qwerty of anything. Just leave him alone to stew in his own juices and this idiotic thread will die out ממילא. What is the point of debating someone so obsessed with things that have no relevance to his own life? No one is asking him to be a Lubavitcher. If he wants to go through life thinking that Reuven is an Apikoros and Shimon is a Kofer (and he himself is a fine Ehrlicher Yid…), so let him live that way. Answering him back just triggers his venom glands and results in כל שכן דפקר טפי, so better to do אל תענה כסיל כאיולתו.
To non-political and Coffee addict
I joined this thread because I wanted to call attention to what Manis Friedman said. To call it Kefirah is a gross understatement. It’s nothing less than a complete rejection of Judaism. According to the Chabad religion, as articulated by Friedman, Mitzvahs are optional and the reason we should do them, if we so choose, is because they fulfill G-d”s needs. I’m glad you guys have now picked up the ball and are running with it
To non-political
Don’t hold your breath waiting for Sechel to answer your questions. Even though he’s constantly checkmated it means nothing to him because he’s a psychotic idolater. As for your point that he’s rejecting what a Gadol BYisroel said. Big deal. He and his co-religionists have rejected the entire corpus of Pirkei Avos which means our greatest Tannaim. Lubavitchers are JBBO’s Jews by birth only. And trash like Yaakov Yosef A who support them will share their denouement.
To non-political
You’re addressing Sechel as if he’s a human being. Maybe the Rebbe is god. He took away his followers ability to exercise their free will just as Hashem did to Paroah.That BS he “wrote” earlier this week about being a heretic because of the Holocaust was part of Manis Friedman’s speech. Mams is now openly challenging Hashem. He said that he’s not afraid of hell In his speech he called Hashem a monster for creating sin and then punishing man if we do them. When I was a kid there was an ad, “You don’t have to be Jewish to love Levy’s,(rye bread) Today the ad would run, “You don’t have to be an insane Kofer to be CHabad, sorry yes you do” And the same applies to dolts like Yaakov Yosef A who support the movement.
To Yaakov Yosef A
You claim to be less Ehrlich than Schneerson the Kofer. I can see that. So what you’re saying is that you’re on the level of Hitler and Stalin. You can choose which one Checkmate
Just to point out another example of qwertys ignorance.
On another thread (I just came across) he accused the rebbe of changing the Torah by saying that when moshiach comes the chazir will be permitted.
The rebbe just quoted what’s written in many places.
פירוש אור החיים על התורה ויקרא יא, ג.
חידושי הריטב”א קידושין מ”ט, ב. מעין זה ברבנו בחיי ויקרא יא ז
שו”ת הרדב”ז חלק ב סימן תתכ”ב.
של”ה פרשת חיי שרה אות י
תורה אור פרשת וישלח ועוד.
יפת תואר לויקרא רבה פרק יג ג.To the group
Sechel is correct that I misspoke that time out of ignorance. I am the first to admit that I am very far from a Talmid Chacham and so it’s quite possible that I can make a mistake. In contrast, Sechel who has been checkmated numerous times by yours truly and others never admits to being wrong. Instead he lies and distorts trying to cover up the Rebbe’s Kefirah. It’s worth noting that I made that statement about the pig being Kosher 2 or 3 years ago. So now we know what he was doing on Tisha Bav. Instead of davening he was trying to find ways to discredit me. Of course he sees no reason to Daven for Moshiach since he thinks he’s already here. BTW. Very few Torah Jews believe that Chazir will be kosher when Moshiach comes since we follow Rambam that nothing will change when Moshiach comes. And so I may have been wrong for saying that the Rebbe invented this I’m not wrong for rejecting it . Checkmate again mate.
“To Yaakov Yosef A
You’re such a nice guy. I wrote my weekly Dvar Torah this week on the subject of rebuking other Jews. Thousands of people read me including some very prominent Rabbis.“
“Sechel is correct that I misspoke that time out of ignorance. I am the first to admit that I am very far from a Talmid Chacham and so it’s quite possible that I can make a mistake“
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Wait 2 or 3 yrs, qwerty will admit he’s wrong about 1 in 300,000 will be redeemed, about nevuah, about Manis Friedman, and all the other attacks he has.
(Following qwertys logic “why should I do Torah and mitzvos if there is no onesh”, why should I daven on Tisha beav, he believes only 1 in 300,000 Jews will be redeemed. (Btw that’s a total of 50 Jews)
I know qwerty always trys to find the bad in Jews, so even though my comment was posted after 9 av , he assumes I have an IQ like him and it would take me hrs to figure out his mistake, when actually he was the one who posted on 9 av such hateful statements!!!
My point in my last comment was to let people know not to think too much about what qwerty writes being that he’s very ignorant. (It took me some time to notice)sechel83 – Please stop dignifying this crackpot by engaging him in debate. He has absolutely no interest in what you (or anyone who disagrees with his obsessive hate) has to say. You are just causing his venom glands to produce more poison. Ignore him and let this disgusting thread finally die out, if the moderators refuse to do their job and erase it.
@qwerty
its possible that even rambam will agree as maybe its nature will change and start to regurgitate its foodTo yankel berel
Chas Vesholom that I’m dismissing what the Ohr Hachain and other luminaries wrote. Let me elaborate. I first heard about this idea of pig being Kosher by reading it in a Chabad publication either Geulah or Claim, I don’t recall. The author stated that according to the Rebbe pork will be Kosher. Had he said that the Rebbe based this on previous Torah giants I wouldn’t have brought it up but he didn’t so I thought the Rebbe invented this notion. Again my mistake but the author was also wrong. Now since such grents have stated that such a possibility exists we certainly can’t call someone a Kofer if he subscribes to this idea. My Rabbis, however, reject this out of hand as a negation of Rambam and I agree with them. There’s a compromise solution to wit that those who believe in the pig becoming Kosher are speaking of the period after Tchiyas Hameisim when there likely will be a change in the Briyah I have no interest in debating this issue because neither I nor anyone in the thread is qualified to make any cogent remarks
To Sechel
What will happen in 2 or 3 years to make me change my mind?
To coffee addict
What’s the Pshat in your latest posts?
To the group
Does anyone get the sense that Yaakov Yosef A doesn’t like me?
@ Qwerty613
“My Rabbis, however, reject this out of hand as a negation of Rambam and I agree with them.”
This issue centers around a well known dispute between the Rambam and Ramban.
On what grounds do your Rebbeim reject the Ramban? Why do you agree?
To the group
I heard that Yaakov Yosef A is working on a remake of the film Get Shorty it’s called Get Qwerty.
To the group
I heard that Yaakov Yosef A is working on a remake of the film Get Shorty it’s called Get Qwerty. Boy it’s fun to emasculate this jerk.
To non-political
One of my Rabbis calls himself a strict Maimonidean so I know, without even asking him which side he’ll take. I will see my other main Rabbi at Maariv tonight and ask him Bli Neder. Now this is the type of discussion I enjoy, rather than the useless name calling by Yaakov Yosef Anal wart and his lackey.
@ Qwerty
One of the reasons I participate in CR threads is the opportunity to interact with people from different communities and develop a better understanding of their points of view. YYA actually takes the time to compose intelligent, well articulated posts. This, and other threads have only gained from his contributions. Attacking him personally isn’t helping make your point.
Not only that. Your method of attack is undermining the very goal you are seeking to accomplish. Mainly, to demonstrate the error of specific beliefs held and propagated by certain elements in Chabbad.
To the group
I’m true to my word. I spoke to Rabbi Fishelis and he said that it’s possible that the nature of the pig will change and it will start to chew it’s cud when Moshiach comes and so it will be Kosher. As I’ve stated on numerous occasions I live by the truth and so I will admit the Emes even if it proves me wrong. In contrast we have Sechel who’s a pathological liar like his Kofer Rebbe. A week ago he said that no Lubavicher believes that the Rebbe is already Moshiach. He then said that there’s a Psak Din that the Rebbe is a Novi. Yes he’s right that there is such a a Psak however that Psak also states that the Rebbe is already Moshiach and he’s still alive. So why does No Sechel continue lying to us? Doesn’t he know that he can’t fool us? The answer is that the Rebbe convinced his Chassidim that they were the master. race of Judaism. Lubavitchers think they’re better and smarter than regular Jews. So not only was the Rebbe a Kofer but he was also a fool.. Checkmate. Now Sechel tells us that in 2 or 3 years we’ll see that everything I say will be disproved. He figures that by that time the Rebbe will have taken care of me. They don’t make dead gods like they used to. J at least knew the Shemoneh Meforesh
I’m jumping in on this thread again because I see Manis Friedman mentioned. Manis Freidman IS a kofer. I’ve heard him say that according to Judaism there’s no gehinom even for one who sins and that Hashem created us because He needs us. Hashem is perfection, He needs nothing from humans. He created us because He wants us to benefit from having a relationship with Him.
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