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    rebEmes
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    I was highly shocked and upset to see that they decided to honor Modi Rosenfeld at the upcoming Gala in NYC for United hatzala. Do they have zero.zero rabbinical guidance whatsoever? Do people understand that it’s absolutely forbidden to have someone like that in the same room for even a minute? Forget honoring which is an even bigger insult to Hashem and the Torah. This is a person who publicly brags how proud he is of his alternative Life Style to religious people on stage all over the world and makes a mockery of the Torah. It’s one thing if someone has this issue and keeps it to themselves in private, not everyone could help what they are going through. But once you make it public and rejoice proudly over this complete abomination, it’s an absolute disgrace to Hashem and the Torah. We are not allowed to associate with someone like that or show them any support. This is basic Judaism 101 feel free to run it by a rabbi to check me out. I can’t believe an organization that does so much good is failing to see the moral issue of having someone like that be their honoree. I hope they wake up.

    #2550776
    qwerty613
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    To rebEmes

    Are they honoring him or is he performing. There’s a difference.

    #2550994
    rebEmes
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    Honoring him…I’m sure he’ll do a number up there as well. But as religious Jews we don’t honor someone that proudly rejoices in his Rebellion against the Torah. Even if it wasn’t homosexuality and he just bragged and laughed that he doesn’t keep Shabbos, the same rule would stand. It’s a disgrace to God. In this case it happens to be him and his Husband

    #2551112
    echo
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    all the Jewish medical organizations in the united states are devoid of אמונה (faith) and it has been that way for at least 9 years now.

    stop expecting any change for the better.

    #2551382
    Kuvult
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    I’ll back not honoring Modi after we first stop honoring ex-convicts.

    #2551461
    pekak
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    @echo

    United Hatzalah isn’t an American organization.

    #2552039
    DaMoshe
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    Where was the outcry years ago, when Agudas Yisroel of America honored Mike Bloomberg? He was in the middle of a huge campaign trying to get NY to recognize same-gender marriage, yet they made him the guest of honor!

    #2552140
    ??coffee addict
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    Damoshe,

    I don’t think they were honoring Bloomberg, they were honoring the money he gave them

    This clown probably didn’t give any money

    #2552233
    nevuah
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    Modi is a comedian. It’s not that deep.

    #2552234
    nevuah
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    Reb emes. You need to take the exacting morals that carry such weight for you, and round them with realistic living. Yes your right it’s not technically correct because of his beliefs but he’s just a comedian so it’s ok.
    They…whoever they arent thinking that deep and or they don’t hold your strict opinions, therefore their world won’t look the way you want theirs to look. Right?
    We need to differentiate these things because it’s important not to try to put so much weight on controlling the narrtive. Relax. Life is not. That. Serious. At all.
    It’s all ganna be….ok. ok?

    #2552694
    rebEmes
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    I mean they clearly watch his shows since they’re quoting many of his lines when they say that he deserves to be honored for his “achdus” and “mashiach” rhetoric so it’s A Hard Sell to tell me that they don’t also hear all his homosexual praising content. To put a Jew like that in front of the audience that will be full of religious people is simply not respectful to Hashem. You want to say that some other people don’t keep Shabbos so what’s the difference, if they would constantly celebrate the fact that they don’t keep it then there wouldn’t be any difference

    #2552940
    nevuah
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    Rebemes. I kind of understand where your coming from and I can see why you would find it appalling. I get it. But remember your lifestyle is very very disconnected from his making his beliefs very jarring for yours.
    Your just very far away from the way he is and it makes sense you feel that way.
    But people by nature are multidimensional..if you look at trump for such a brash example, he’s very jarring in his speech, he’s not polished most people did not like his beliefs or his past actions. But yet he still the best man for the job?
    Why? Because perfection doesn’t always fullfil roles, character, life experience necessity does.
    Now this isn’t the presidency but he’s just a comedian being hired for a role. Not because of his beliefs because thars what they need him for, for whatever reason.
    People aren’t perfect. And if everyone conformed to our way of living in order to live nobody would be perfect enough to fulfill anything or get anything done in life.
    People are multidimensional and sometimes very contradictory , but yet we can say we don’t agree with his beliefs and still enjoy his humor. Because we don’t need everyone to conform to our way we can just use them as example of what not to do.

    #2552941
    nevuah
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    You want to know why people aren’t perfect, first because we need those examples of what not to do. And we also need perspective in life which requires life to be _imperfect_ if we were carbon copies of the other, we wouldn’t accomplish or learn anything at all. Cuz we’d all be so picture perfect impossibly inhumane.
    I have friends who I absolutely do not agree with their lifestyles and think their quite delusional, yet overall they are great people.
    Because love transcends belief systems ideologies, and knowledge. Yes they are deluonsal in this one dimension of their life but does not mean we always have to reject the entire person. (Obviously within reason) Imperfection does not mean we need to reject everything and everyone or every single part of every person we meet.
    Cuz life, people, do not and cannot conform to impossible standards. Cuz that’s not how life works.
    Even tho I kind of understand you, it’s giving a bad message, but if he’s not spreading those beliefs during his comedy Im not sure it matters that much.
    Just my opinion

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