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Spider Veins…Did Chava HAVE to eat from the Aitz Ha’daas???
Don’t know. But did she HAVE TO share?
No, she didn’t have to eat from it. It would probably never have happened had her husband not added a CHUMRAH onto Hashem’s mitzvah, instead of teaching her the halacha exactly as it was given.
lol! I’ve been asking my mom this question ever since!
oomis1105: That’s funny. SHE blamed the Nachash. You’re blaming her husband!
btw we are bidden by Chazal to make gedarim. ??? ???? ?????.
@oomis please look up the pasuk ?????? ?-? also see rashi ?????? ?? ????? so it was Chavah who added the chumrah!! as the Brisker Rav said “churahs nit far kein veiber”.
This really got me thinking.
very nice Zeeskite;)
eclipse- i thought you were divorced
MODs PLEASE remove above (it may hurt someone), this one too. Thanks.
why did I think this was gonna be a forum on spider & varicose veins?! 😉
eclipse- do you have vericose veins even when not preg? I hear they are hereditary and I have them too but they dont really hurt. Once in a while when they do, I just lay on a bed with my feet up against the wall. Works miracles!
There are cheap compression stockings that work. The frum stores or ladies in their houses only sell the most expensive. But I’ve found in K-mart and online cheaper and they work fine.
eclipse – I’m suprised you’re still talking to me after my post on Que Sera song. Oh, you probably didn’t see it -they deleted it.
Obviously, I bought them for myself. The ones from K’mart were around $5 a pair.
If I could have a word with Chava, I would have a lot to tell her right now. Varicose veins, sciatica, shortness of breath, etc.–I’ve got a long list of things to thank her for. And I won’t even talk about how scared I am of childbirth. This will be my 9th ka”h, and I’m still scared stiff when I think about it too much. Thanks, Chava.
health- are you a guy or a girl? this is making me so confused!
Guys get varicose veins too. My grandfather wears lovely ladies’ support stockings for his. Me, I just suffer in silence.
spider veins and varicose veins are 2 different things.
varicose veins can cause discomfort and even some significant medical issues
spider veins are usually just a cosmetic problem.
I don’t have spider veins, only a beaut of a varicose running from my left knee down my inner calf a bit. had it for many yrs., got worse after childbirths. add on the knee replacement, prominent heel spur, arthritic big toe .. & you wonder why I can’t stand? same issues on my right leg, except no varicose vein, B’H.
veryy draining, heavy feeling in my legs… waahhh 🙁
is this TMI?!
thanks, eclipse =]
Mother in Israel:
I don’t think it’s right to express oneself in such fashion towards the first woman, directly created by HKB”H, mother of all (Mommy taught me derech eretz). I saw worse. It was some sort of tefilla (by whom?) saying in effect “HaShem, you know me. If I would have been tempted, I would have overcome my urge..” Oh, really?!
“…a guy with sympathy pains??”
I felt bad when my wife was going through childbirth and had pain, but sympathy pains -not me, never. You can’t be a medical professional with sympathy only empathy. Look up the difference.
“My grandfather wears lovely ladies’ support stockings for his”
I actually wore the ones made for men, not ladies. I also don’t have varicose veins. They help to prevent aching legs and feet if you’re on your feet all day.
Try K-mart brand or FUTURO brand. They are not that difficult to put on.
I never said I was a Doctor.
The Jobst 15-20 compression stockings are much easier to put on, & can be done w/o using gloves!
There are also some insurance carriers that cover this expense in full.
I dont know about sympety pain but some men put up sympety weight…
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