Reply To: Hakaras Hatov for Israeli Soldiers (IDF)

hakatan- you missed the whole point- according to the Boyaner Rebbe, Sadigur Rebbe, , Rabbi [Aharon] Lewin of Reisha [the head of the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah], Rabbi Sorotzkin,Rabbi Tzirelson, the president of the congress, and majority of knessia members it is possible to agree, according to the laws of the Torah, to the establishment of a Jewish State in a portion of the Eretz Yisael without denying the belief in the coming of redeemer. This means there is no problem of 3 oaths etc..

Furthermore, the state of Israel “the medina”- although started by many tinok shenishba jews (who were zionists)- DOES NOT EQUAL ZIONISM. Zionism is a belief system. The state in and of itself is not. The state IS a democratic and principally neutral state that can by majority rule be run by the frum or non frum – but in itself is neither. In the future, it is predicted that the charedim will be majority -and for those who held state was not problem, but we should make it religious- this will fulfill all their optimal conditions – either way- now – it has not transgressed the oaths. Plus Rav Moshe also held it was not a problem. While it may be eilu vieilu we pasken one way and we did and you were not on the majority side.