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And as pulsing flower said, the tosefos harash is not just a “better writer” than tisefos. That’s ridiculous. To think rishonim are just wasting their time is basically apikorses.

Why is that apikorsus? Show me in the 13 ani maamins, or in the sefer haikarim, or anywhere else that this is apikorus. Why is it apikorsus to believe that certain individuals were granted more talent than others? Do you think that John Q. Jew living in the 1200s has the same skills as rashi? Is it apikorsus to not believe that as well?

No. So why should it make a difference if John Q. Jew is Rabeinu Tam or your Yankel Am Haaretz-they don’t have the same skills as Rashi?! (Note:Rashi was picked as an arbitrary example)

Just becasue the Rishonim lived awhile ago does not mean they are perfect. The reason that we highly value their words is because they are closer to the authentic mesora. Not because they are naturally smarter or better writers.

Also, I never said that the Rishonim were wasting their time. If anything it would be a waste of their time to go over their manuscript 50 times to make sure every word contains some huge chidush, which they don’t. In your worldview though, they probably wrote whatever they wanted the first time with no editing, because editing implies that they are human which is blatant kefirah.

This thread should end, being that if yeshiva guys were to read this they can be turned off by a bunch of stupid posters who think they know everything.

You have it backward. If the only method to learn was the method that you described I would have stopped learning all together. And for a while I was considering that. But when I realized than in order to learn, I did not have to make illogical assumptions, I once again began to enjoy learning. (I am not saying that learning is not a chiyuv if you don’t like it-L’fum Tzaara agra)