Reply To: Techeiles 🔵❎🐌☑️🐟

The point of focusing on Talmudic literature is that none of the rishonim had Techeiles, so anything they say is merely an educated guess albeit filtered through their knowledge of the afforementioned Talmudic literature.

I am merely trying to explain why it doesn’t make sense to say that Techeiles is blue. Do you disagree with my assesment or do you agree with it but we just have to follow the Rishonim? If uo disagree then please provide an answer.(Changing every girsa is not an answer.) If you agree but feel threatened by Rishonim, then as I have already pointed out Tosfos says befairush that the Yerushalmi implies green. Tosfos doesn’t change the girsa nor reject the Yerushalmi because of Kala Ilan or historians(I don’t if they were accessible then) or the abundance of Rishonim that say that it’s blue. Also bear in mind that the definition of Kala Ilan that you are using comes from the Rishonim and they may have defined it as indigo because they held that Techeiles is blue as opposed to holding that Techeiles is blue because Kala Ilan is blue. So it could very well be that anyone who hold sthat Techeiles is green would also hold that kala ilan is something else or even that kala ilan is a general term for any non chilazon dye (probably plant dyes specifically based on the word “ilan”).