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“For those of you who don’t accept rayos from rishonim because they often mean the opposite of what they say

Who are you addressing with this??”

I am addressing you. To quote:

“Now about rishonim. Firstly, the simple reading is not always the correct understanding. Sometimes rishonim use language that nearly black-and-white indicates one side of a chakira when they hold of the other. That is a general rule of learning.”

And: ” You need a rebbe for rishonim too.”

There are two types of situations where you are trying to prove something:

1) A vaccuum

2) Not in a vaccuum

I never said that I don’t accept rayas from rishonim. The point I actually did make was that once there already exists a LEGITIMATE shitta for “x”, then, since it is axiomatically true that rishonim SOMETIMES employ lashon that to US is misleading, YOU cannot on your own reading bring a raya against it.

In other words, this situation is not in a vaccuum. Therefore, I don’t accept rayas from rishonim that are based on your understanding. Even a legit posek, gadol, etc who cites them as a raya is merely entitled to argue, but his opinion hardly invalidates the shitta.

But to emphasize the point you’re clearly missing, there is a difference between a raya brought from your puny, incapable, and lacking mind vs one brought by someone with DT, etc, who’s legit.

If you want to keep the statement, you can quote me that “You don’t accept rayas brought from rishonim by random nobodies who think they know how to read a rishon, against an established and legitimate shitta.