read on. kesef mishna is mefurosh
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“Ant the gemara in menachos is only muchach that kala ilan is a specific thing if you make the hanacha that murex trunculus is not kala ilan”
no. gemara is muchach that vadai a testthat will reveal kla ilan will reveal all kla ilans, meaning al karchach they are identical. murex and indigo are not.
“And correct me if I’m wrong but I think the nimulei yosef did not say “plant indigo”, he just said indigo”
yeah but what does kla ILLAN mean, either referring to plant, or it is a take-off of a name of the min, mmeaning only that min. Either way plenty of rishonim say ISatis, name of plant.
“And anyway the fact that the rishonim don’t mention murex trunculus as part of kala ilan is very reasonable considering they didn’t know of any blue dye from it”
well the shiltei giborim knew techeiles was from murex and still said it was blue.