Reply To: Techeiles 🔵❎🐌☑️🐟

Reading onward in the kesef mishna only shows that ???? is not included in ??? ????. Which makes sense because ???? can basically mean any dark color whereas ??? ???? is exactly like Techeiles.

You say that the gemara is muchach that kala ilan is only plant indigo because the gemara gives a test. I mentioned this as a possible answer although I pointed out that one could argue that we are not necessarily doing the test right and in reality the gemara’s test could distinguish between techeiles and murex trunculus. In fact you yourself have advanced this exact argument earlier in this thread.

The fact that the shiltei giborim said that techeiles is from murex is not relevant because as I said, I am asking in a vacuum of other proofs. My point was that the rishonim who did not know that murex trunculus could produce techeiles colored dye can not be expected to have mentioned it.