simcha: I have heard from some people who felt that the secular anti-frum israelis were also pushing to prevent yeshiva bochrim from having to serve in the army, so long as they were forbidden to work as well, with the hopes that being forced to live in poverty would destroy the entire society. It has not destroyed the society but you are right that that mindset and laws has led to serious poverty issues and it’s a real problem I dont see an easy solution to for the current generation. As for your first point, I would say charedim care about all people who wish to be chareidim- but those who choose not to they dont care about. This is true for all non-racial minority groups.
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