YYBC: Of course Hashem is involved. But you’re ignoring the massive middle ground of those who weren’t necessarily supposed to die but through their own negligence put themselves in Sakanah by not having standard prevention.
LF: You’re being ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. If a Sakanah didn’t exist in the times of Chazal or Matan Torah we can ignore it? So there’s nothing wrong with playing in traffic, right? It’s not Assur. There was no Sakanah playing in the middle of the highway 2000 years ago. So why is there now? Oh, right. There are trucks and cars now that will kill you.
HKBH gave us life-saving treatments and devices for a reason. You’re a Kafui Tov for ignoring them. Honestly. If that’s what you believe stop taking medicines that they didn’t have in Chazal’s time. After all, there’s no Chiyuv for you to take them, right?
edited by request