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The part about Canaan was very relevant to the context. You were trying to demonstrate that even R’ Soloveitchik held that we should stay away from the world as much as possible. But what he actually said was that in Canaan it is advantageous to stay away from the world, and as long as we are in Canaan, so much the better. But now we are not in Canaan anymore. So the quote doesn’t really prove anything. It would be almost akin to castigating someone for engaging in ????? ????? ????? ?????? by telling him that the Gemara says ??? ?? ???? ??? ???? ???? ??????.

Chacham Ovadia Yosef said a week after Rav Cohen’s remarks that he was only referring to the seruga leadership like Bennett and R. Druckman (who were promoting forcibly drafting the Bnei Torah), not to the seruga klal. Regarding Rav Kaplan, he said his hyperbolic remarks about the government ministers trying to draft the Bnei Torah were said in humor.

That’s precisely my point. R’ Cohen and R’ Kaplan explicitly stated inflammatory remarks which were later clarified. You have no problem that they weren’t careful when speaking, that they didn’t think that someone might actually assume that they meant what they said and be insulted. Yet you fault R’ Lamm for not being careful to not say something which people might be able to misconstrue as insulting if they completely distort his words.

Regarding the sefarim you quoted, I’m not sure what you are trying to prove, so I will hold off until you explain what you are bringing them for.