feivel – you are correct, and I agree with you however Rav Yisroel Salanter was a healthly and his generation were healthy people. When a person is sick, they can not undergo a standard heart operation or procedure. Our generation is a very sick one, we have to be very careful as to which meds we take! When the Rabbonim spoke in Lakewood, they don’t say over these kinds of stories, Rav Falks book on tznius doesn’t have these kinds of stories. So I might conlcude from that the perhaps my line of thought is whith in the thougth of the Rabbaonim. And I also heard this ides expressed by quite a few Rabbonim who are very invovled in chinuch.
I would like to hear your thoughts on the above.