DY I am definitely arguing with both; and if anything I have more disdain for the application. It troubles me greatly that in pursuit of upholding a standard of tznius that a day, a week, a month before the women weren’t considered to be breaching, such psychological violence as extortion is used. That is transparently leverage of power and control. And not only of the women, but of their spouses as well. To me, this matrix of extortion indicates that tznius is a straw man here.
Sorry about questioning your use of the absurd word.