Sam, we reject doing it, but we don’t reject the notion that pain or suffering doesn’t have the ability to be mechaper if it’s the person’s fault or even doing. Please bear in mind the context in which I brought the idea. I’m not saying we should be rolling in the snow or allowing ourselves to be bitten by bees; I’m simply saying that there could be a kaparah from suffering due to negligence, and I’m bringing a raya from the rishonim who did believe in those things. The reason we “reject” it is not because self inflicted suffering inherently can’t be mechaper.
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