gofish – we obviously have set very different standards of behavior for ourselves and our teenagers. According to Nisht that means I am a PETA supporter but really it just means that if it isn’t inside, it doesn’t come outside.
I have boys who have been in situations that have definitely brought them to a point where that would have gone thru their head – that’s not the same as being capable of treating someone like that. If you can’t see the difference, i cant make you see it. but your second paragraph answered your first, that fellow really was smart, and his behavior is a lot closer to what is expected from us as Jews. If you are more likely to flip a finger up then turn on a tape – find a different job. I know I am more likely of the former so I don’t even read about these stories let alone show up at the locations.