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HaKatan
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Avi K, ROB, et al:

It is the Zionists who have been terribly evil in (and to) E”Y. You really believe Hashem derives nachas from Tel Aviv being the Toeiva capital of world!? OR from the Zionists’ century of shmad and destruction!? And all the rest?

The two points you made are completely irrelevant to the massive death and destruction, both spiritual and physical wrought by Zionism for around a century now worldwide and, in particular, in E”Y. Nationalism, whether religious or secular, was no excuse for sacrificing oceans of Jewish blood on the altar of Zionism. That includes during WW II, the State’s founding, its many wars, and more. Yet you still cling to your idol of Zionism. At least admit the facts and then, if you want to, perhaps start debating what to do about it at this point, which is a fair discussion. But the Zionist lies are really brazen because they distort our holy Torah.

As well, nobody is arguing against individual Jews living there and working the land, etc. Assuming your reading and application of the gemara in cheilek is correct, you are simply underscoring that the Zionists ruined this siman geulah and handed the Satan his greatest victory since the eigel by convincing frum Jews to daven for their idol state rather than the true geulah. Thus, Hashem listened to their tefillos and granted the former instead of the latter, most unfortunately.

May Hashem remove the blinders of Zionism from all His children and bring the true geulah BB”A.