simcha613: Whereas I agree with you that the extremists will keep their blinkers on and nothing will change their mind,the great majority of middle-of-the road chareidim have rejected the interpretation championed by the extremists. The Israeli chareidi world votes in the elections, accepts numerous benefits and , very cautiously, is approaching army service in a new vein. This mya not be full-throated Zionism ,but acceptance of the medinah nonetheless. I call this crypto-zionism, hidden zionism.
My purpose in quoting the gemoro in sottah was to disprove even those who may think that the “sholosh shevuos’ continues in force.