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rabbiofberlin
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Softwords: I appreciated your comments, even though I think you are wrong. AT least, your words echo “divrei chachomim benachas nishmoim”. Unfortunately, you are wrong in most of your comments. You try to justify kollelim. The problem is not a few kollels , something that has been with us forever. The problem- and the tragedy- is that,in Israel, every chareidi is encouraged to go to kollel, regardless of his merits. To add insult to injury, they rely on the klal to support them. That is an impossible situation as you readily know. And, of course, you minimize the duty of working and supporting one’s family. That is the halacha and I cannot see how anyone in the last century can justify ignoring a slew of halochos.

As far as the medinah- virtually all chareidi gedolim vote, receive financial benefits from the medinah,are protected by the army and the police……etc. I don’t see how you can say that they are against the medinah. That is ludicrous. The arguments you espouse have long been resolved, with the Holocaust and the establishment of the medinah. It may have historical curiosity, not reality.