to wiv,
how can you dispute something I’ve seen just because you witnessed something else? I am sorry to hear that your neighborhood has not yet gotten with it.
Some shules where the talking was rampant and the talkers insolent when rebuked, are now mostly quiet. Others, though still bad, are not as bad as they used to be.
( perhaps a new thread should be started about gabboim and officers who think they have special dispensations, despite shushing others.)