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Avi K:

a. Why did you quotation marks?

Because I was quoting from what you posted…

b. Do you then admit that today’s non-observant are not in the above category as they lack malicious intent?

I am not convinced that there is any difference between malicious intent of heresy and non-malicious intent of heresy – I think anybody who is purposely rebelling against Hashem’s Torah,whether out of a sense of hatred or a sense of indifference, should be included in ?????? ???????????? ?’ ???????? ???????????????? ??????????.

However, I do not believe that most people who smoke or steal (or dress inappropriately, or speak lashon hara, etc) are purposely rebelling against Hashem’s Torah – some incorrectly believe that what they’re doing is not really assur, and many more do believe what they’re doing is wrong but cannot withstand the temptation, making their actions li’tayavon instead of li’hachis.

To be sure, there are some who are acting out of disregard for the Halacha, and I would think those few should indeed to be hated; but the vast majority of self-identifying “frum” people who do aveiros are not like that.

2. Threads evolve. This also happens in the Gemara until someone says “????”.

OK, ????:

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/trump-fascist-demagogue/page/3#post-591973

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/trump-fascist-demagogue/page/3#post-591974

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