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Avram in MD
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Shopping613,

our teachers are always telling us that we have to be refined in the street, look refined, no screaming, running, and so on….how talking on the phone makes people look in your direction so it shouldn’t be done.

I have to wonder if boys ever get speeches like this?

With the exception of the phones (which were not allowed on school time), I got those speeches every time there was a school activity, and I was in a public school. To me, it has more to do with being non-disruptive and mature rather than modest. Perhaps your teachers are making it an issue of modesty because they think that’s what’s important to their students.

so I started wondering if our teachers really mean that ALL girls should not be taling loudly, how are boys, men, children allowed to do so too?

I don’t really see adult men or women screaming, running, etc. in public. Did your teacher specifically say that boys and men are allowed to?

It’s seems so outlandish to say girls can’t run in the street and boys can

Who has said that it is ok for boys (or man) to be disruptive? Even if you see boys doing so, didn’t you say that the majority of girls in your class don’t take their teachers’ advice either?

I just don’t see why it’s considered to “moshech eneyim” of guys when we run, or talk loudly, but if boys do it, kids are doing it….then why would we stick out anyway

Once, very late on Shabbos night, there was a loud commotion outside my house that woke me up. I felt very upset because I was concerned that it would wake the baby, and my first assumption was that our (non-Jewish) neighbors were having a wild party, as they had done once or twice in the past. The voices didn’t sound like them, however, so I peeked outside and saw a group of Yeshiva boys cavorting down the middle of the street. I don’t think that behavior was ok. Nor do I appreciate when I am forced to overhear someone, man or woman, having a fight with someone else on their cell phone in the store or subway or wherever. Nor do I feel comfortable when packs of adult-sized “children”, boys or girls, engage in horseplay in shopping center parking lots. I don’t think you should interpret your teacher’s advice as an over-emphasis on modesty, but rather advice on how to conduct oneself as a mature adult. And that applies equally to men and women.