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HaKatan
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GAW:

I am not expressing what I hold, as I don’t have a personal position on a matter that is for gedolei Torah to decide. I merely expressed what is the universal position of the gedolei Torah. The Brisker Rav, who was known for being very careful with what he said, stated explicitly that Zionism is Avoda Zara.

Interesting, the father of a young boy once came to Rav Chaim Brisker to tell him that his (this father’s) son had given a coin to the shmad-named “Keren Kayemet”, a blatant identity-theft of the “keren kayemes” we say in davening each day.

They happened to be standing near a church at the time; Rav Chaim pointed to the church and said to the young man that he’d be better off throwing out his money there than giving it to the Zionists. This is, of course, way before 1948.

As well:

“Working with” and “wanting” and two completely different things.

Although Agudah does “work with” the State of Israel, which the gedolim seemed to allow while that is something to which Satmar would object, that does not at all mean that they “want” that State, CH”V.

And the many yeshivos and yeshivish shuls that say tehillim after the latest attack of the savages (whom the Zionists carelessly rile up after they carelessly invaded and stirred up all this trouble to begin with, as the Chazon Ish pointed out to David BG) on the Jews, are doing so solely for the welfare of the Jews in Eretz Yisrael and having nothing to do with the State of Israel.