Hakatan- my question was what is your personal connection to MO? What have been your personal interactions with MO people? What actual knowledge are you talking about?
Fortunatly yes they are following the same Torah. The torah was no only given to Yeshivish people Hakatan. It was given to all Jews. The “true Torah world” is a completly subjective statement. Just because someone is Zionistic doesn’t make them not a Torah Jew. It makes them zionistic lol.
And please “the Jews, are doing so solely for the welfare of the Jews in Eretz Yisrael and having nothing to do with the State of Israel.”
If you are in Israel, you are living intrinsically with it. You buy food from there and give to the economy, you are being protected by Israels army. If you get funding, you are taking state money. They are quite intrinsically related.
“(whom the Zionists carelessly rile up after they carelessly invaded and stirred up all this trouble to begin with”
The way you talk about zionism puts zionism before the Jew. You are throwing your brothers and sisters under the bus. You sound no better than neturai karta. Frankly I respect the fact that you have a strong stance for whatever you respect, but if someone non jewish heard you say that they would think you have zero love for “the zionists”. And because I am trying not to be judgemental of you, I understand you were taught a certain way, I understand you genuinly feel this way about zionism. I get it. But you for some reason aren’t getting me.