Barry:
“The Chazon Ish said that we needed two generations of exclusive Torah learning to rebuild Torah after WWII.”
Source?
“Poverty is being forced on them by their leadership.”
What are you talking about? The Chareidim aren’t working because either A) they’re busy learning Torah B) Israeli law does not permit them to or C) they cannot find suitable employment in a Chareidi-friendly atmosphere. This is not being “forced” by anybody.
“At the same time, Bennett countered him in every way possible and minimized the damage. “
Happy Purim to you too. Bennet brought Lapid to power by making a pact with him as soon as the elections were over, knowing full and well what Lapid’s positions were about vis-a-vis Yeshivos, conscription, buses on Shabbos, conversions, etc. Then he had Shaked, one of the most prominent members of Bayit Yehudi, write the bill that would have people arrested for wanting to learn Torah, then he used party discipline to force people to vote said bill into law against their consciences. Oh, and then he released some sort of worthless statement to the affect of “we don’t really think it should be this way”.
“There were even articles in the Chareidi press that Chareidi politicians weren’t too upset by the bill despite their yelling, because they knew that it really had no teeth and could have been far worse.”
Name them.
“How is the government forcing poverty on people?”
Until last year, anybody who didn’t go to the army (aka, 99% of the Chareidim) wasn’t allowed to work. How can you blame somebody for not working if you yourself made it illegal for them to do so?
“What you are saying that a Chareidi who is NOT learning shouldn’t have to make the same commitment as everyone else. How is that justifiable?”
Is it any less justifiable than saying that Dati women do not have to serve in the IDF, as per the ruling of the Cheif Rabbinate? Or any less justifiable than the Arabs not having to serve?
There is no equality in Israeli society. I don’t see any legitimate reason why this should the one case where suddenly everybody must be treated exactly the same.
“It’s just an excuse people give to avoid taking personal responsibility.”
“Let everyone else’s children make the sacrifices, afterall, you’re better than they are.”
And here we have it. This is where you’ve given up the charade of presenting facts, and revealed your true motive: bashing the Chareidim. Assuming the worse about their motives, judging them in the worst way you possibly can, insulting them, and do I detect good old fashioned hatred?
Some differences of opinion can be discussed intellectually, but one cannot argue with hatred or disprove contempt. If you just simply hate us, there’s really not much left for me to say.
oomis:
“Does anyone believe it is not a mitzvah to defend Am Yisroel and EY today”
The Halacha (as brought down in the Sulchan Oruch) is that we do not stop learning to Torah in order to do a mitzva if somebody else (who is not learning) can do it.
147:
“I love Israel, and Netanyahu and abhor anyone who even contemplated protesting against Netanyohu, who is such an Oheiv Yisroel.”
So you abhor your fellow Jews, even while talking about Ahavas Yisroel?