mw13: I’ll try to find the source for the Chazon Ish’s comment. I read it a number of years ago and don’t remember the source.
“What are you talking about? The Chareidim aren’t working because either A) they’re busy learning Torah B) Israeli law does not permit them to or C) they cannot find suitable employment in a Chareidi-friendly atmosphere. This is not being “forced” by anybody.”
A. Go in the streetsa of Yerushalayim and see able bodied people there all times of day. Not everyone is learning and certainly not learning full time.
B. There is no such law. Not serving in the IDF is no excuse. There is Sheirut Leumi, doing community service work that could be done in their own communities. You also have to have skills to get a decent paying job and since any secular education is frowned upon in their communities, how are they going to be equipped for gainful employment.
C. Real bad excuse. It is not uncommon for people in Israel to tele-commute, meaning working from home, if your qualified for a computer or other professional type jobs.
“Is it any less justifiable than saying that Dati women do not have to serve in the IDF, as per the ruling of the Cheif Rabbinate? Or any less justifiable than the Arabs not having to serve?”
Chareidim have the same option as Dati women (some do go to the IDF) by choosing Sheirut Leumi. Your Arab comment makes me question your sanity!
“Bennet brought Lapid to power by making a pact with him as soon as the elections were over”
Bennett didn’t bring Lapid to power. You don’t understand Israeli politics. Lapid had 19 seats and there was no way of forming a government without him. Bennett used Lapid to get into the government, since Bennett was on the outs with Netanyahu at the time. He also offered the same deal to Shas first and Deri turned him down, leaving him with only Lapid as an option.
B”H. Bennett was in the government. You have no idea how many things he stopped Lapid from doing that would have been very harmful to the Frum world.
“And here we have it. This is where you’ve given up the charade of presenting facts, and revealed your true motive: bashing the Chareidim.”
That’s absolutely ludicrous. Personally, I’m more Chardall. I have Chareidi children. Are you saying I hate my own children? No, people have obligations not to rely on charity. If someone is a real learner, they should stay learning. Many aren’t and are just using the system as an excuse.
There is also a lot of abuse, like people working for a Yeshiva and getting government subsidy as if they are learning full time. People claiming they are learning and are not. If those types of fraud weren’t happening, there would be more money for Yeshiva;s and families. So blame the abusers and enablers of the fraud. They are the ones that lead to the creation of a Lapid.
Also, when was the Kesuvah changed that the women are supposed to support the family in addition to every other family responsibility?
You live in the U.S., I presume. Is the same expectation exist that the men don’t have to work and the women support the family indefinitely? Learning in Kollel is a great thing for a while, but you can work and learn too.
Don’t imply hatred where none exists. You only show that you’re a fool and ignorant too.