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Redleg
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Here’s a question for you, Joey. What constitutes Golus? Is it the lack of the Beis Hamiqdash? Were the Jews who returned to E’Y from Bavel still in golus until the B’H was built? Or is is it the in gathering of the Jewish People to E’Y? Note that Bayis Sheini did not require overt Divine intervention to build and that during the entire period of Bayis Sheini, the majority of Jews still lived in Ch’L. Is it Jewish independent rule? After centuries of vassalege successively to the New Babylonian, Persian and Selucid empires, the successful Maccabean revolt left Israel an Independent, self-governing nation. Were the Jews still in Golus? Even though the Hasmoneans were not the halachic rulers of Israel and weren’t exactly “frum” either (Alexander Yanai, arguably the most successful Hasmonian king, was famously opposed to rabbinic tradition)?

I submit that a case can be made that, even though the B’H is yet to be built, and even though the current government of the Medina is no more halachic than the Hasmoneans, the rise of an independent Jewish State on the historical, G-d given, land of Israel constitutes, at least, the prerequisites for the end of golus, may it be complete bemeirah beyameinu.