HEALTH: “Also, Jews had access to the land way before the Zionists declared a State.”
Yes, HEALTH, they had access, at the risk of having their heads chopped off.
And are you really going to compare the Jewish presence prior to the State to after? ie. The shear number of Yeshivos, seminaries, shuls, Jewish businesses, and Orthodox comminuites?
Yes it’s a two way street, but that is an entirely different discussion. The point I was making is don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Every Jew on this planet benefits from the State Israel ,especially Orthodox Jews who take advantage of the religious avenues for growth it provides. To then lamblast it and the army is utter kfooy tova. JMO of course.