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jewishfeminist – i like that definition of what the new off the derech your reform or conservative. it is true they are reform or conservative because you can never stop being jewish. very good point you should try keeping as much of the torah as possible for G-d.

apushatayid – you cant be “kicked off the derech” if you believe in G-d you do what G-d says they didnt believe in G-d and went against G-d and went off the derech. they werent really frum from the beginning. they grew up and had no choice besides to be frum because their parents raised them that way. they didnt believe in G-d to begin with. they did it for their parents. once the school did that they wanted to find a way to get back at them and choice something that goes against G-d.

Any idea of how to do kiruv in a college setting. Its kind of weird to just walk up to someone and be like i want you to come to my house or wherever and that way youll get a chance to do kiruv on them.