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rebdoniel – basically you are saying “the reason Moshiach is not here yet is because of sinat chinam from the chareidim”. (After all, EVERY example you gave is one where a MO or DL was verbally attacked by a chareidi Rabbi)

In my opinion, your comment is a perfect example of the problem that is preventing us to be zoche to Mashiach sooner. In your righteous endeavor to state where you feel we are going wrong by explaining that Sinat Chinam is the cause, you fail to recognize that in your own statements you are showing your own Sinat Chinam. It is clear that you have a “disdain” for chareidim (I’m putting it mildly).

We have to stop seeing each other as “not one from my camp” and view each other as another child of the “Rabono shel Olam”.

I believe it is acceptable for us to feel that the other’s hashkafas are mistaken, but that does not give licence for me to hate you or vice versa (unless one of us is purposely trying to destroy the sanctity of Klal Yisrael).

As far as the cases you gave above, you brought down three cases were the persons in question are very controversial. It doesn’t surprise me in the least that Rabbanonim came out against them and rightfully so. I hate to say it, but it seems to me that your attitude is the type that if Yeshu was alive today you’d get upset that our sages came out against him and you’d cry, “Sinat Chinam”!

Although the general rule is Divrei Chochomim B’nachat Nishmaim there are times that Chazal are REQUIRED to come out harshly. You clearly brought out three of such cases.

Perhaps it would be good for you to broaden you mind and circles by learning texts from various sects of Klal Yosrael and even daven with them for a while. Get to know them up close and understand their way of thinking. Only then can you truly see the big picture and determine which “Derech” is best for you.

I’ve personally have spent time with and davened by MO, DL, Chabad, Chassidim, Litvish (and at several different places with very different Hashgafas), BT Yeshivas, Breslov, Sefardim, Persians, Teamanim, and Breslov. I’ve even experienced some very treif groups such as the Kabbalah Cult as well. I know the Pros and Cons of each one of them and that knowledge helps me to know how to interact with each one of them. It has also allowed me to see them as other Jewish human beings instead of hating them and view them as “THEM”! (If you know what I mean.)