Dveikus…dont just spout your seminary indoctrination…think about you are saying… Twelve years and your husband taught you so little…Zeh Chaval!!
1) Yes, one should look at oneself.. However, that wasnt the point of this thread. If one buys a car,house, stocks etc… One does an analysis and due diligence of the value of the investment..If thats true with gashmius, all the more so with ruchnius… There needs to be a Vanguard-like evaluation survey of the perspective avreich… Is the prospective shver, wife, Clall Yisroel making a prudent investment..
2) Actually, my experience is radically different. The most motivated ones with good work-study habits really grow. The ones who are there because of social and family pressure feel like they are doing solitary. You are describing guys, who grew up and realized that either they need to get serious or get a real job so they straighten up. That is very laudable and admirable. However, I dont believe these are the ones who become R Elyashiv.
3) You clearly never saw a Chovos Halvovos or Mesilas Yesharim in your life.. Unless you are Toraso Umunuso and are exempt from tefila, (this hasnt existed since the Amoraim), YOU ARE MCHUYIV TO MAKE HISTADLUS…. If you are cursing out Lapid, and protesting cuts the Zionist govt is making in money that the Brisker Rov and others warned not to take in the first place, then you are a lot further from the lofty madreiga you write about then the most pruste working guy in NY…
4) If you bothered to study the Rambam in depth, with the commentaries, you’d find that the shiur of 3 and 9 was according to the generation. In our times most ppl need to work a lot more hours for the basics.. The Rambam was very against healthy able bodied men taking handouts and charity..