Sam2, the mesilas yesharim talks about excess conversations with women in shaar haprishus, He makes it clear that it may be technically mutar but it’s wrong. The mishna of al tarbeh sicha im isha is in avos, not seder nashim. The Rav ZT”L said similarly when someone asked him about women dancing on simchas torah- there’s nothing halachically wrong but it’s wrong anyway.
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