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bombmaniac
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your arguments are childish because you keep trotting out the “husbands beating wives” or “beis din hitting wives” argument which is patently ridiculous.

but while on the subject…you do realize that beis din hits people to force them to change? obviously when beis din beats you it is radically different from when a parent hits a child…but you do realize that that is why beis din hits right? because sometimes it is the only option. obviously beis din isnt hitting purely out of love…lol i am not advocating malkos for kids 😀

but a parent IS hitting purely out of love. if theyre doing it right.

“however i would wager that if oomis gave you an example you would tell her she was wrong and proceed to suggest another method that may or may not have worked.”

that MAY OR MAY NOT have worked. may…or…may…not. in other words in most cases i would wager 90% IF DONE CORRECTLY (note…IF DONE CORRECTLY) hitting WILL work. (note once again…IF DONE CORRECTLY). other methods…will probably not. i have seen parents try and convince their children not to do X only to have them do X many times over again. and again, i have seen parents who when their child did X hit them (once again…i will keep saying this…DONE CORRECTLY) and the child never did X again.

those studies you trotted out…i GUARANTEE you that if you asked the parents to be honest with you they will tell you that they did not feel love when they hit their kids. THEY! WERE! DOING! IT! WRONG! so please stop trotting out your ridiculous studies.

how do you know to trust yourself? you’re right. you don’t. however look at it this way. if you see yourself as a good person, then if you ever fly off the handle and hit your kid you will feel the same or more pain than the child does. THAT will be your punishment, and it would hopefully change you. again, like i said earlier even if you don’t end up ever hitting your kid, you should work on yourself if you’re scared of doing it.